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Post by Hitch on Oct 2, 2017 13:06:19 GMT -6
Yessir!
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Post by Lebowski on Oct 2, 2017 14:00:16 GMT -6
Didnt bush not renew the ban on the Auto weapons in 2004?
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Post by xdipster on Oct 2, 2017 20:25:11 GMT -6
As blitz50 stated, this is a human problem, not a gun problem. The guy was most likely already breaking the law. The argument then can't be about regulating guns, because this gun used, at least at one time if not currently, was regulated as rarely allowed by law. Gov't needs to inforce its current laws to keep in line with the 2nd Amendment's requirement that it regulates guns.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 3, 2017 5:19:30 GMT -6
As blitz50 stated, this is a human problem, not a gun problem. The guy was most likely already breaking the law. The argument then can't be about regulating guns, because this gun used, at least at one time if not currently, was regulated as rarely allowed by law. Gov't needs to inforce its current laws to keep in line with the 2nd Amendment's requirement that it regulates guns. Very lucid point, Dip, but this is just silly........
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Post by xdipster on Oct 3, 2017 8:15:38 GMT -6
I go back and retract most of what I said. It seems every one of his guns was bought legally. Inforce that.
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Post by Lebowski on Oct 3, 2017 8:23:10 GMT -6
boom
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Post by Hitch on Oct 3, 2017 8:31:03 GMT -6
If one has as much money as that fella, you can prolly get whatever weapon you want....
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Post by Hitch on Oct 3, 2017 8:31:56 GMT -6
Dip, we need to enforce proper behavior always....
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Post by Lebowski on Oct 3, 2017 8:40:26 GMT -6
Bring back public execution
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Post by blitz50 on Oct 3, 2017 8:50:03 GMT -6
I go back and retract most of what I said. It seems every one of his guns was bought legally. Inforce that. Bought legally and then illegally modified to fully auto. Also on your above post about what the 2nd Amendment states, you have to use the commas in the right place. The 2nd has nothing in it about regulation of people owning firearms. Not that I am against sensible gun laws. I believe we already have sensible gun laws in place, they just are not enforced properly. Course I am biased as I am a card carrying member of the NRA.
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Post by blitz50 on Oct 3, 2017 9:49:39 GMT -6
Problem is I am so tired of it all. I want to win the lottery and retire to some remote island in the Caribbean. Drink rum, eat jerk chicken and fried Conch, lay my fat arse on the beach. Yup maybe just go live in a hut and rent out beach chairs if I can't win the lottery.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 3, 2017 9:58:02 GMT -6
Good luck
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Post by blitz50 on Oct 3, 2017 10:00:11 GMT -6
Problem is I am so tired of it all. I want to win the lottery and retire to some remote island in the Caribbean. Drink rum, eat jerk chicken and fried Conch, lay my fat arse on the beach. Yup maybe just go live in a hut and rent out beach chairs if I can't win the lottery. but then you have the republicans trying to kill you with hurricanes....stud is telling you, nowhere is safe.... Now that is funny.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 3, 2017 10:02:14 GMT -6
Agreeance! Bravo sir!
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Post by xdipster on Oct 3, 2017 10:02:27 GMT -6
I go back and retract most of what I said. It seems every one of his guns was bought legally. Inforce that. Bought legally and then illegally modified to fully auto. Also on your above post about what the 2nd Amendment states, you have to use the commas in the right place. The 2nd has nothing in it about regulation of people owning firearms. Not that I am against sensible gun laws. I believe we already have sensible gun laws in place, they just are not enforced properly. Course I am biased as I am a card carrying member of the NRA. Problem is, this is argument actually hurts the personal right to bear arms. Either it says it gives people the right to bear arms but that right is regulated by the gov't, or it gives the militia the right to bear arms and the gov't the right to regulate that. If you say it never says you can regulate a person's right, then it isn't giving the person that right, but the militia. Can't have it both ways. And Agree with the 2nd to last sentence. I was a member of the NRA, until they fought against restrictions on guns that can get through metal detectors.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 3, 2017 10:03:02 GMT -6
Bring back public execution and film it on facebook live... This is funny too.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 3, 2017 10:12:35 GMT -6
Here is the deal. People will act outraged. Verbal attacks will be made against the NRA, NRA will verbally attack back. A few losers will show they are real men by going into a StarBucks with their AR, others will show they are adults by yelling at them. And nothing of substance will be done. Then the next time this happens, we will get the same thing. Bad people do bad things. Period. Get used to it. Learn to cry if it happens to someone you love. Its the only lesson that truly has come out of any of these senseless acts.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 3, 2017 10:58:43 GMT -6
Learning to cry is the only lesson learned?
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Post by xdipster on Oct 3, 2017 11:34:50 GMT -6
Learning to cry is the only lesson learned? What changes when these things happen? Name one. We learn people suck?
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Post by Hitch on Oct 3, 2017 11:54:22 GMT -6
Perhaps Hotels will beef up their collective security procedures?
I agree that bad people are gonna do bad things.
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