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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2017 15:00:29 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over
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Post by Hoss on Nov 11, 2017 15:29:10 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over I don't know if this post is 100% true. Burnet is easily six years older than Christ. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2017 19:13:01 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over I don't know if this post is 100% true. Burnet is easily six years older than Christ. Ha ha. Moses and I played on the same team together. 😊 |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2017 19:36:58 GMT -6
Qb Moses was a sr when I was a sophomore. We thought we were going to rained out in the playoffs one time but he parted the water. 😂
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 13, 2017 9:23:55 GMT -6
GPP IMO having coached over in Tulsa area at that level. The holding taught to DBs at schools is as bad and NEVER called.
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Post by Hitch on Nov 13, 2017 9:32:32 GMT -6
THAT's FRIGGIN FUNNY!!!! 25%!!!!
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Post by xdipster on Nov 13, 2017 9:37:23 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over That might be 6A. Our team runs the I and all that goes with it. We played a state powerhouse that runs the wish and flex bone. There were 153 total clips on hudl. That included the coin flip, the scoreboard clips during timeouts and after scores, and the handshake after. Its not the number of clips. I think only one hold was called in our game as well, and we will hold the heck out of ya. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 13, 2017 9:51:34 GMT -6
GPP IMO having coached over in Tulsa area at that level. The holding taught to DBs at schools is as bad and NEVER called. I noticed that last year in the state championship game. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 13, 2017 9:53:56 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over a....did you count the snaps? b....why would you pay to see a wrestling match when you could just go to lebows around dinner time on pizza night and watch he and his BOL? a. Just from game stats. I won't vouch for the authenticity. b. Lew and his BOL just left a bad image burned in my mind for the rest of the day. |
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 13, 2017 9:54:11 GMT -6
GPP IMO having coached over in Tulsa area at that level. The holding taught to DBs at schools is as bad and NEVER called. I noticed that last year in the state championship game. BINGO!!! |
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Post by xdipster on Nov 13, 2017 14:02:56 GMT -6
Is it called one way or both ways? That is the only issue. If they are favoring one side over the other, then you have a legit gripe. Refs have enough on their plate without having to decide the small school vs. big school argument for teams. If you want holding to be called or stopped, teach your kids to throw chops and hand fight like crazy when being held. Break their dang arms if they want to hold. Seams like the only time its called anymore is if the one being hold tries to get away.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 13, 2017 15:24:07 GMT -6
Is it called one way or both ways? That is the only issue. If they are favoring one side over the other, then you have a legit gripe. Refs have enough on their plate without having to decide the small school vs. big school argument for teams. If you want holding to be called or stopped, teach your kids to throw chops and hand fight like crazy when being held. Break their dang arms if they want to hold. Seams like the only time its called anymore is if the one being hold tries to get away. Not saying anything about being one sided. Just nothing called at all. I can't in good conscience coach a technique that is illegal according to the rule book. i.e. holding with hands outside. |
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Post by Hands11 on Nov 14, 2017 10:27:19 GMT -6
Is it called one way or both ways? That is the only issue. If they are favoring one side over the other, then you have a legit gripe. Refs have enough on their plate without having to decide the small school vs. big school argument for teams. If you want holding to be called or stopped, teach your kids to throw chops and hand fight like crazy when being held. Break their dang arms if they want to hold. Seams like the only time its called anymore is if the one being hold tries to get away. Not saying anything about being one sided. Just nothing called at all. I can't in good conscience coach a technique that is illegal according to the rule book. i.e. holding with hands outside. I would rather have nothing called at all than a flag every other play. Now there are no excuses then because both teams are not getting anything called. |
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Post by Hands11 on Nov 14, 2017 10:32:43 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over Is this a east side west side officiating thing...... or is this something more?? I mean would holding penalties made any difference in any of the east/west side match ups in 6a-1 in the first round?? I don't think so... |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 14, 2017 10:37:26 GMT -6
Not saying anything about being one sided. Just nothing called at all. I can't in good conscience coach a technique that is illegal according to the rule book. i.e. holding with hands outside. I would rather have nothing called at all than a flag every other play. Now there are no excuses then because both teams are not getting anything called. I understand what you are saying. My point is; the game has been drastically altered as a result of that mentality. |
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Post by Hitch on Nov 14, 2017 10:40:52 GMT -6
Is it called one way or both ways? That is the only issue. If they are favoring one side over the other, then you have a legit gripe. Refs have enough on their plate without having to decide the small school vs. big school argument for teams. If you want holding to be called or stopped, teach your kids to throw chops and hand fight like crazy when being held. Break their dang arms if they want to hold. Seams like the only time its called anymore is if the one being hold tries to get away. Not saying anything about being one sided. Just nothing called at all. I can't in good conscience coach a technique that is illegal according to the rule book. i.e. holding with hands outside. What do you think about coaches that allow a db to intentionally target a receiver? |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 14, 2017 10:42:06 GMT -6
Admittedly I am probably the older than anyone on this board. So what I am saying means nothing to you young guys. I just watched a 6a playoff game with 124 offensive snaps. The umpire threw zero (0) flags for holding on either team. The white hat threw one for the game. If I wanted to watch two fat guys bear hug, I would go to a wrestling match. We have totally taken the little man out of the game. I will also say there is a huge discrepancy in what is a hold between West side officials and Tulsa area. The playoffs especially have become a free for all with nothing called. Rant over Is this a east side west side officiating thing...... or is this something more?? I mean would holding penalties made any difference in any of the east/west side match ups in 6a-1 in the first round?? I don't think so... I don't think so either, but who knows. It would at least let a smaller player have a chance. As is, the upfront size and depth dominates the game. That's fine in college. Go recruit what you want. In hs we take what we get. |
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Post by Hands11 on Nov 14, 2017 11:37:03 GMT -6
Is this a east side west side officiating thing...... or is this something more?? I mean would holding penalties made any difference in any of the east/west side match ups in 6a-1 in the first round?? I don't think so... I don't think so either, but who knows. It would at least let a smaller player have a chance. As is, the upfront size and depth dominates the game. That's fine in college. Go recruit what you want. In hs we take what we get. This is the whole problem! Wussification of America at it's finest IMO. Hey he's smaller let's go easy on him and give him a chance! C'mon man!!! I guarantee the people you, me, or anyone on this board played against who was bigger in size than us didn't give 2 shats when the whistle was blown! And I never expected them to. |
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Post by Lebowski on Nov 14, 2017 11:56:24 GMT -6
Each game has it's own set of rules, you learn what they are quick.
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Post by Hitch on Nov 14, 2017 11:58:48 GMT -6
One of our best players last year was also the smallest player on the field. He made plays all over the field.
Let the refs do their job. If you don't like how it's officiated, send tape to your version of UIL and to the officials reps.
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