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Dec 14, 2015 12:55:52 GMT -6
Post by Hitch on Dec 14, 2015 12:55:52 GMT -6
Thoughts on the Heisman voting, winner, and acceptance speech?............
I thought McCaffery should have won.
Voting was pretty dayamn close.
Thought the speech was very honest and heartfelt. Loved how he thanked all his coaches after thanking the Good Lord and mama/pops.
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Dec 14, 2015 12:56:46 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Dec 14, 2015 12:56:46 GMT -6
should have been mccaffery. he did everything.
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Dec 14, 2015 13:42:19 GMT -6
Post by fbs on Dec 14, 2015 13:42:19 GMT -6
I thought Henry was deserving, but I thought McCaffery was more deserving. I'm not gonna complain about Henry being chosen because it was close. The real problem is how they are chosen now. If McCaffery played in the SEC he wins it, no question. If he played on a playoff team he wins it. It shouldn't have anything to do with how good your team is, but now that's all it's about.
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Dec 15, 2015 8:15:21 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Dec 15, 2015 8:15:21 GMT -6
McCaffery, in my opinion, is the definition of what a Heisman winner should be. Talk about a guy that can do EVERYTHING!
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Dec 15, 2015 8:15:52 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 8:15:52 GMT -6
Haven't cared about this award since Reggie Bush won it over Vince Young. Gotten worse and worse as the years have gone by.
fbs nailed it.
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Dec 15, 2015 8:18:16 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Dec 15, 2015 8:18:16 GMT -6
Haven't cared about this award since Reggie Bush won it over Vince Young. Gotten worse and worse as the years have gone by. fbs nailed it. You think Young should've won it over Bush?? No way
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Dec 15, 2015 8:22:05 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 8:22:05 GMT -6
Absolutely. Take Bush away from USC and they are still a great team. Take Young away from UT and they lose 4 games and become average quickly.
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Dec 15, 2015 8:23:24 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Dec 15, 2015 8:23:24 GMT -6
Bush was one of the most explosive college football players I've ever seen! I think he was the best player in the country that year even though i do agree with what your saying about Young, but it's not Bush's fault the rest of Texas' team sucked that year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 8:25:06 GMT -6
Bush was explosive, but he also wasn't on the field on 4th and 2 with the game on the line....
That UT team was bad@ss, actually both teams were loaded with NFL talent, but you take the QB away and it's a different story.
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Dec 15, 2015 8:30:05 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Dec 15, 2015 8:30:05 GMT -6
Bush was explosive, but he also wasn't on the field on 4th and 2 with the game on the line.... That UT team was bad@ss, actually both teams were loaded with NFL talent, but you take the QB away and it's a different story. Young wasn't returning kicks and punts either.
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Dec 15, 2015 8:32:06 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 8:32:06 GMT -6
No he wasn't, but you take the leader of the team/most explosive player/playmaker away from UT and they don't beat Ohio State, Oklahoma, or Oklahoma State.
You take away Reggie Bush, who was explosive, but wasn't the leader of the team, they may lose to Notre Dame but that's it.
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Dec 15, 2015 8:41:11 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Dec 15, 2015 8:41:11 GMT -6
I don't know man! That's very debatable!
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Dec 15, 2015 8:43:02 GMT -6
Post by tonymontana on Dec 15, 2015 8:43:02 GMT -6
No he wasn't, but you take the leader of the team/most explosive player/playmaker away from UT and they don't beat Ohio State, Oklahoma, or Oklahoma State. You take away Reggie Bush, who was explosive, but wasn't the leader of the team, they may lose to Notre Dame but that's it. And Texas
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Dec 15, 2015 12:20:59 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Dec 15, 2015 12:20:59 GMT -6
the talking heads and blowhards at the SEC network (a.k.a. ESPN) wanted henry to win it. they went out of their way and bent over backwards to suck henry off at any possible moment in order for him to win it. you take henry off that bama team, and they might lose 1 more game. maybe. you take mccaffery off of stanford and they easily have another 2-3 losses. not to mention the fact that ESPN employs that huge bama and SEC homer turd boy finebaum to espouse everything SEC. every time that idiot has called out oklahoma, bob stoops has made him look like a b*tch. end of toolbowski rant.
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Dec 16, 2015 9:06:49 GMT -6
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Post by email on Dec 16, 2015 9:06:49 GMT -6
No he wasn't, but you take the leader of the team/most explosive player/playmaker away from UT and they don't beat Ohio State, Oklahoma, or Oklahoma State. You take away Reggie Bush, who was explosive, but wasn't the leader of the team, they may lose to Notre Dame but that's it. And Texas Didn't they almost lose to Fresno state that year too?
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Post by fbs on Dec 16, 2015 9:14:39 GMT -6
Vince proved who the more dominant player was. Not sure how it's really a debate at all really. Bush is a cheater, yes he was a great player but he was also a change up guy, a gadget player who happened to be faster than everyone else. Like someone else said, when the game was on the line, he wasn't even on the field.
Same scenario flipped: 4th and 7 from the 12 (going in to win the game), Mack Brown pulls Vince Young and puts in Matt Nordgren and says: "go win us a game, you rogue viking you... " Nordgren promptly sh*ts himself and is sacked for 90 yard loss.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 9:27:45 GMT -6
Precisely.
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Dec 16, 2015 9:28:33 GMT -6
Post by Hitch on Dec 16, 2015 9:28:33 GMT -6
ROGUE VIKING!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post by jmstreeter on Dec 16, 2015 10:11:37 GMT -6
Bush was a h3ll of a player, but Vince was the heart and soul of that Texas team. If VY got hurt and had to miss any significant game time Texas would have been done. I my opinion Bush was just a flashier Eric Metcalf.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 10:22:11 GMT -6
when USC had those tough gotta have it yards they gave it to Lindale White, when Texas was in that same situation they put in Vince's hands. if you are the best player in college football (Heisman) they put the ball in your hands at crunch time, if your not, they give it to Lindale freaking White.
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