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Post by TOBC on Feb 10, 2016 10:18:33 GMT -6
lebow has a morbid hatred of fall baseball and any school that has it. All football coaches should. It has been known to hurt us with a kid or two around here. We play a little baseball here. hey, i'm with you guys. i think its stupid.
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Post by Okie on Feb 10, 2016 10:21:09 GMT -6
lebow has a morbid hatred of fall baseball and any school that has it. All football coaches should. It has been known to hurt us with a kid or two around here. We play a little baseball here. just a little
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 10, 2016 10:22:30 GMT -6
All football coaches should. It has been known to hurt us with a kid or two around here. We play a little baseball here. just a little And every humbabe parent thinks their kid is the next Pete Kozma or Dylan Bundy.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 10, 2016 10:24:26 GMT -6
And every humbabe parent thinks their kid is the next Pete Kozma or Dylan Bundy. Tell them Bundy came from Sperry anyway. Maybe they should go there.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:24:58 GMT -6
I agree its jacked up. But several schools that have it used the same argument that football coaches made for power lifting. "Its kids being able to compete that aren't in other sports." But fall baseball has more legitimacy because it is OSSAA sanctioned. We have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 10, 2016 10:25:48 GMT -6
And every humbabe parent thinks their kid is the next Pete Kozma or Dylan Bundy. Tell them Bundy came from Sperry anyway. Maybe they should go there. Don't get me started on that one! I could rant for days.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -6
In a perfect world, all kids would lift in a lifting period, and then there would be no offseason. Everyone goes and competes. Of course, I'm talking about small schools. Not a fan of athletic kids camping in offseason because its easier.
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Post by BrennanHuff on Feb 10, 2016 10:29:01 GMT -6
I agree its jacked up. But several schools that have it used the same argument that football coaches made for power lifting. "Its kids being able to compete that aren't in other sports." But fall baseball has more legitimacy because it is OSSAA sanctioned. We have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us. Disagree, football coaches have been smart enough to keep powerlifting OFBCA and not let the OSSAA screw it up like they do everything else they touch.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 10, 2016 10:29:11 GMT -6
In a perfect world, all kids would lift in a lifting period, and then there would be no offseason. Everyone goes and competes. Of course, I'm talking about small schools. Not a fan of athletic kids camping in offseason because its easier. Around here, kids go to track to hide from offseason. I know it's much different in small schools.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 10, 2016 10:30:20 GMT -6
I agree its jacked up. But several schools that have it used the same argument that football coaches made for power lifting. "Its kids being able to compete that aren't in other sports." But fall baseball has more legitimacy because it is OSSAA sanctioned. We have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us. Way to go. You are going to start the yearly powerlifting argument!
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:32:43 GMT -6
I agree its jacked up. But several schools that have it used the same argument that football coaches made for power lifting. "Its kids being able to compete that aren't in other sports." But fall baseball has more legitimacy because it is OSSAA sanctioned. We have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us. Way to go. You are going to start the yearly powerlifting argument! Hahahaha. I know some big schools use it as a reward for kids that have made all the workouts or made it certain goals. That is actually a pretty good idea. But when the idea behind a sport is to legitimize keeping kids year round, it hard to get behind that sport. Whether you are talking baseball, football, or tiddly winks.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 10, 2016 10:33:57 GMT -6
In a perfect world, all kids would lift in a lifting period, and then there would be no offseason. Everyone goes and competes. Of course, I'm talking about small schools. Not a fan of athletic kids camping in offseason because its easier. Around here, kids go to track to hide from offseason. I know it's much different in small schools. I got that crap taken care of here this year, after a couple meetings. I coach boys sprints, so if you are a football player, you come directly to me everyday when athletics start at 145, we do our sprint workout, when we are done we all walk together back to the football facility and get all our lifts in.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:35:31 GMT -6
In a perfect world, all kids would lift in a lifting period, and then there would be no offseason. Everyone goes and competes. Of course, I'm talking about small schools. Not a fan of athletic kids camping in offseason because its easier. Around here, kids go to track to hide from offseason. I know it's much different in small schools. I ran spring offseason my first year here because our HC retired. 6 kids hated actually having to do body dynamics and working, that they had schedules changed out of athletics. Wasn't used to that much work. I feel the pain that you have described in great detail.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 10, 2016 10:36:05 GMT -6
I agree its jacked up. But several schools that have it used the same argument that football coaches made for power lifting. "Its kids being able to compete that aren't in other sports." But fall baseball has more legitimacy because it is OSSAA sanctioned. We have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us. Way to go. You are going to start the yearly powerlifting argument! Powerlifting = waste of time
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 10, 2016 10:36:24 GMT -6
Around here, kids go to track to hide from offseason. I know it's much different in small schools. I got that crap taken care of here this year, after a couple meetings. I coach boys sprints, so if you are a football player, you come directly to me everyday when athletics start at 145, we do our sprint workout, when we are done we all walk together back to the football facility and get all our lifts in. Ours are supposed to lift before school with the HBC. We have ZERO FB coaches in the track program (not including throwers). Our good ones lift every morning and it has been good for them. The others are trying to avoid work. They have ZERO chance to ever score any points.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 10, 2016 10:38:22 GMT -6
I feel you man! Used to be same way here! Need to get a FB coach in over there. This has worked out great! I run their tails off then we go lift. Here in about 3 weeks or so I will time them all in certain things, if they will never make an event or a relay based on their time, I send them back to off season. No questions asked.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:38:51 GMT -6
Absolutely hands. I lift our kids in wrestling and in track. Only guy here that does. We don't have the sought after lifting period. I am far from anti-weight room. I just don't think thats where a majority of kids that are here should be. Of course half of them are ex-wrestlers that quit, but others should be in basketball too. If you can help a program, be in it. If you can't, get good enough in one to help it. My personal opinion.
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Post by bolt92 on Feb 10, 2016 10:39:34 GMT -6
I'm just saying that we can't make our guys compete in powerlifting or have an OSSAA sanctioned Spring state 7 on 7 championship, which in my opinion would be similar to fall baseball.
Several 8-man schools are firing 150 pound guards out there and it actually takes less people to field an 8 man football team than a fall baseball team. Makes the athletes more well-rounded IMHO.
Plus at a 2A school, we compete against the fall baseball schools that already have 30+ games under their belts during our spring baseball season. It isn't fair to punish our football playing schools and their 2 sport players by allowing fall baseball schools to play year around. We have actually lost several good football/baseball players over the years because parents are tired of them not being able to compete in baseball with the "Fall Baseball" schools. They move them to one of those schools since baseball is their primary sport.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:40:09 GMT -6
I feel you man! Used to be same way here! Need to get a FB coach in over there. This has worked out great! I run their tails off then we go lift. Here in about 3 weeks or so I will time them all in certain things, if they will never make an event or a relay based on their time, I send them back to off season. No questions asked. Good stuff.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 10, 2016 10:41:19 GMT -6
I'm just saying that we can't make our guys compete in powerlifting or have an OSSAA sanctioned Spring state 7 on 7 championship, which in my opinion would be similar to fall baseball. Several 8-man schools are firing 150 pound guards out there and it actually takes less people to field an 8 man football team than a fall baseball team. Makes the athletes more well-rounded IMHO. Plus at a 2A school, we compete against the fall baseball schools that already have 30+ games under their belts during our spring baseball season. It isn't fair to punish our football playing schools and their 2 sport players by allowing fall baseball schools to play year around. We have actually lost several good football/baseball players over the years because parents are tired of them not being able to compete in baseball with the "Fall Baseball" schools. They move them to one of those schools since baseball is their primary sport. Fall baseball is the devil as well. Agreed.
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