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Post by jmstreeter on Feb 17, 2016 9:23:40 GMT -6
I'd still go with Deer Creek being a better job. The program is on a strong foundation, the kids play extremely hard, and they are in the mix every year. Yea you got good athletes at Del City but it's going to be a struggle every single year there with this or that trying to hold it all together. That's the real down side with the Del City job, the struggle you will have with the kids and dealing with their daily life issues from home to school. I know a couple of coaches there and that's the main problem they deal with. They said a good portion of the kids play hard, but they did say that can be a struggle as well. Outside of that they do have some good athletes and on occasion you will get some special ones like the Wilson kid.
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Post by jmstreeter on Feb 17, 2016 9:30:04 GMT -6
I think it depends on the coach. Some would rather coach kids like you would have at Del City than kids at Deer Creek. So if you were a guy like that Del City would seem like a dang good job. I think it's a lot about fit. Good point. I agree with both.....it does depend on fit. The best thing about Deer Creek is the overall support from school to family, the worst thing about Deer Creek is the support from family to school. The kids have all the support in the world, but those same kids can be some pretentious pricks just like the adults. Hey, don't get me wrong I would gladly coach there, but I know I would definitely have to temper my emotions and my "football language."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 9:35:26 GMT -6
I'd still go with Deer Creek being a better job. The program is on a strong foundation, the kids play extremely hard, and they are in the mix every year. Yea you got good athletes at Del City but it's going to be a struggle every single year there with this or that trying to hold it all together. That's the real down side with the Del City job, the struggle you will have with the kids and dealing with their daily life issues from home to school. I know a couple of coaches there and that's the main problem they deal with. They said a good portion of the kids play hard, but they did say that can be a struggle as well. Outside of that they do have some good athletes and on occasion you will get some special ones like the Wilson kid. Very true. I have noticed with kids like the ones at Del City once you gain their trust they will do anything for you. I have always loved kids like that.
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Post by jmstreeter on Feb 17, 2016 9:41:19 GMT -6
That's the real down side with the Del City job, the struggle you will have with the kids and dealing with their daily life issues from home to school. I know a couple of coaches there and that's the main problem they deal with. They said a good portion of the kids play hard, but they did say that can be a struggle as well. Outside of that they do have some good athletes and on occasion you will get some special ones like the Wilson kid. Very true. I have noticed with kids like the ones at Del City once you gain their trust they will do anything for you. I have always loved kids like that. Kids like that are tough and you are right once you gain their trust you can win. Just a few years back they won 9 or 10 games and should have won state in 5A, but they caught a hot Carl Albert team and got knocked out of the playoffs that year.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 17, 2016 9:42:39 GMT -6
I'd still go with Deer Creek being a better job. The program is on a strong foundation, the kids play extremely hard, and they are in the mix every year. Yea you got good athletes at Del City but it's going to be a struggle every single year there with this or that trying to hold it all together. Yup. Suburb problems vs Inner City problems. I'll take the place the kids are moving to over the place they are moving from any day.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 17, 2016 9:45:13 GMT -6
h3ll you guys know who is gonna be the front runner out of the gate for this job, it'll be Coach_15! Anyone else hear this as well. I was being serious!
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Post by xdipster on Feb 17, 2016 9:46:27 GMT -6
I'd still go with Deer Creek being a better job. The program is on a strong foundation, the kids play extremely hard, and they are in the mix every year. Yea you got good athletes at Del City but it's going to be a struggle every single year there with this or that trying to hold it all together. That's the real down side with the Del City job, the struggle you will have with the kids and dealing with their daily life issues from home to school. I know a couple of coaches there and that's the main problem they deal with. They said a good portion of the kids play hard, but they did say that can be a struggle as well. Outside of that they do have some good athletes and on occasion you will get some special ones like the Wilson kid. Absolutely. Know some guys there too. Its a grind and will wear you down trying to hurd cats. On the bright side, some do very well with kids that need a little extra guidance. I think a guy like Henno for instance and how he did with Muskogee before a few injuries would be a good example. He relates well with those kids. I've known some that got a job just to get the job, then the whole deal went off the rails because they couldn't relate to the kids.
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Post by Lebowski on Feb 17, 2016 9:48:56 GMT -6
h3ll you guys know who is gonna be the front runner out of the gate for this job, it'll be Coach_15! Anyone else hear this as well. I was being serious! Really?
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 17, 2016 9:50:46 GMT -6
h3ll you guys know who is gonna be the front runner out of the gate for this job, it'll be Coach_15! Anyone else hear this as well. I was being serious! Makes sense. He would have connections there.
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Post by jmstreeter on Feb 17, 2016 9:54:14 GMT -6
I'd still go with Deer Creek being a better job. The program is on a strong foundation, the kids play extremely hard, and they are in the mix every year. Yea you got good athletes at Del City but it's going to be a struggle every single year there with this or that trying to hold it all together. Yup. Suburb problems vs Inner City problems. I'll take the place the kids are moving to over the place they are moving from any day. I agree...suburb problems are not that extreme compared to those inner city problems. I have been there and done that.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 17, 2016 9:59:08 GMT -6
Anyone else hear this as well. I was being serious! Really? Yep! What do you think
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 17, 2016 10:00:13 GMT -6
Really? Yep! What do you think Nudge nudge...poke poke...trying to start a fire I see...
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 17, 2016 10:00:40 GMT -6
What?
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Post by TOBC on Feb 17, 2016 10:06:51 GMT -6
h3ll you guys know who is gonna be the front runner out of the gate for this job, it'll be Coach_15! Anyone else hear this as well. I was being serious! you think he's got enough experience? he's been a DC for as 2 years. that enough to you? i've only been a DC for 2 years and i don't i'm anywhere close to being ready to be a head coach. much less a head coach of a 6A-II school.
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Post by Lebowski on Feb 17, 2016 10:07:39 GMT -6
Really? Yep! What do you think Good for boy wonderer.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 17, 2016 10:13:48 GMT -6
All about who you know not what you know a lot of times in this business. Is he ready? I don't really know honestly.
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Post by TOBC on Feb 17, 2016 10:15:53 GMT -6
All about who you know not what you know a lot of times in this business. Is he ready? I don't really know honestly. that is no sh*t right there.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 17, 2016 10:16:33 GMT -6
Is anybody really ready the first time they get a HC job? You can be close, but I don't think you can ever fully appreciate it till you do it.
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 17, 2016 10:18:45 GMT -6
Never ever completely ready. He is ready for a shot at it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 10:19:19 GMT -6
I will answer it for all ya'll. h3ll no he's not ready to be a HC yet. h3ll he ain't even ready to be a DC yet. He was DC at Tuttle and gave up 400 yds rushing a game and they barely sneaked into the playoffs, he leaves and look what Tuttle did this year. The difference is night and day. He goes to Westmoore and gets the DC "title" and coaches the back end and they give up about 45 points a game and don't make the playoffs at a school that's been about 8 or 10 years in a row. So there you go. I'm sure he's a nice guy but in my opinion Hands, he needs to get better at what he is doing currently first.
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