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Post by Burnet44 on Dec 13, 2018 13:42:09 GMT -6
Dont we tell kids to use athletics to better themselves? Get an education, get a better job, have a better life? I used athletics to do better than my parents di who had nothing. It gave my kids a decent life and opportunities that I never had. They took advantage of those and will do better than I ever did. They have control over their pay, position and dont have to depend on others for anything. Im not talking about you slaps and Ern. Im talking about the future and opportunities for your kids. IMHO education is a noble profession. But teachers and coaches have no control on much of anything. Look at the direction Austin goes. They will not give you a raise, lessen state run tests, keep tecking you on ins ect. There are a ton of opportunities out there now that didnt exist 10-20 years ago. My kids apply what they learned in athletics, work hard, get things done, on time, dependable ect. They get moved up in their jobs because of that. Education IMHO is just the opposite. Do a good job and they give you more to do because others dont get fupa done and you do. How many of you get the good kids because you do a good job or do you get the Ghey C's because you can handle them? My kids know a lot more than I do and I want it that way. Im not saying everything about ed is bad. Im saying there is a ton more stuff to do out there and let your kids have the best opportunities that you can provide. Until our leaders do something about the state of education, which they have shown no desire to do, there are better opportunities out there. I always wanted better for my kids. My parents didnt go to college. I did. Both my kids went to better schools that I did. We worked hard to ensure that. And these days you dont have to go to college to do well. All Im saying is I wanted better for my kids. Education wasnt it. You may disagree which is fine. But if my son in law dies my daughter wont have to marry someone for a meal ticket. And she will provide better than I did for her for my grandkids.
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Post by strongdog on Dec 13, 2018 13:55:30 GMT -6
Dont we tell kids to use athletics to better themselves? Get an education, get a better job, have a better life? I used athletics to do better than my parents di who had nothing. It gave my kids a decent life and opportunities that I never had. They took advantage of those and will do better than I ever did. They have control over their pay, position and dont have to depend on others for anything. Im not talking about you slaps and Ern. Im talking about the future and opportunities for your kids. IMHO education is a noble profession. But teachers and coaches have no control on much of anything. Look at the direction Austin goes. They will not give you a raise, lessen state run tests, keep tecking you on ins ect. There are a ton of opportunities out there now that didnt exist 10-20 years ago. My kids apply what they learned in athletics, work hard, get things done, on time, dependable ect. They get moved up in their jobs because of that. Education IMHO is just the opposite. Do a good job and they give you more to do because others dont get fupa done and you do. How many of you get the good kids because you do a good job or do you get the Ghey C's because you can handle them? My kids know a lot more than I do and I want it that way. Im not saying everything about ed is bad. Im saying there is a ton more stuff to do out there and let your kids have the best opportunities that you can provide. Until our leaders do something about the state of education, which they have shown no desire to do, there are better opportunities out there. I always wanted better for my kids. My parents didnt go to college. I did. Both my kids went to better schools that I did. We worked hard to ensure that. And these days you dont have to go to college to do well. All Im saying is I wanted better for my kids. Education wasnt it. You may disagree which is fine. But if my son in law dies my daughter wont have to marry someone for a meal ticket. And she will provide better than I did for her for my grandkids. I've never understood this. Last place I was at the principal was so bad he got a higher job in admin and a big raise. Currently my 6 year old daughter wants to be a rockstar and a mermaid, gotta follow your dreams
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Post by jmstreeter on Dec 13, 2018 13:58:54 GMT -6
I enjoy teaching/coaching. I know the teaching part can be stressful at times, that's from the other adults that are in charge now. You either have admin who were picked on or bullied as kids or the ones who have no clue to what's best for the kids running education now and it shows with policies and procedures that they put down on their teachers. Besides all of that, what other job can get vacations that fall in line when your kids are out of school and still get paid for it. I can say that I am currently trying to move up to bigger and better to make more $$$, like relocating south of the Red River. So if you Texas guys need a guy, holla at me. At times I can do without the teaching, but coaching is what I am in it for!!!
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Post by Hoss on Dec 13, 2018 14:04:28 GMT -6
I enjoy teaching/coaching. I know the teaching part can be stressful at times, that's from the other adults that are in charge now. You either have admin who were picked on or bullied as kids or the ones who have no clue to what's best for the kids running education now and it shows with policies and procedures that they put down on their teachers. Besides all of that, what other job can get vacations that fall in line when your kids are out of school and still get paid for it. I can say that I am currently trying to move up to bigger and better to make more $$$, like relocating south of the Red River. So if you Texas guys need a guy, holla at me. At times I can do without the teaching, but coaching is what I am in it for!!! That was a huge reason for me to come back...I will get almost 2 months to spend with my daughter and not have to worry about, "am I going to get home before she goes to sleep?" Heck she already wants to come to work with me, every morning this week she has been awake when I am leaving and when I kiss her goodbye she says, "We go to football?"
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Post by acsl8ter on Dec 13, 2018 14:06:57 GMT -6
I enjoy teaching/coaching. I know the teaching part can be stressful at times, that's from the other adults that are in charge now. You either have admin who were picked on or bullied as kids or the ones who have no clue to what's best for the kids running education now and it shows with policies and procedures that they put down on their teachers. Besides all of that, what other job can get vacations that fall in line when your kids are out of school and still get paid for it. I can say that I am currently trying to move up to bigger and better to make more $$$, like relocating south of the Red River. So if you Texas guys need a guy, holla at me. At times I can do without the teaching, but coaching is what I am in it for!!! great post....agree with most of what you said....when I think about getting out, I think about all the perks and that is what brings me back to staying in.....
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Post by tcb on Dec 13, 2018 14:13:19 GMT -6
Sure we want our kids to have it better than us....that's why I tell them they must get and vote when they are able to. I also want better things for my grandchildren which is why I won't mind if my sons and/or the great kids I coach and teach want to become teachers, and I will gladly support them. If we sit here and dissuade all of the good kids to not get into education, what are our grandchildren going to have as teachers? We need good people in education.
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Post by Burnet44 on Dec 13, 2018 14:19:36 GMT -6
I agree We tried to get Dan Patrick out and got killed 75-25 we got run ruled before the half
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Post by tcb on Dec 13, 2018 14:21:07 GMT -6
Yep....gotta keep voting (and blasting him on Twitter, lol)
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Post by bigern809 on Dec 13, 2018 14:43:53 GMT -6
Maybe yall have been at crappy districts, but I do a good work and I've gotten awards and recognition. I never talk about it, because if you have to talk about yourself, then you're only trying to convince yourself. I also am not a person who needs to be extrinsically motivated. All of my effort and drive comes from within because I pride myself in doing the best job daily.
Go be a CEO or work in the oilfield if you want continuous extrinsic motivation.
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Post by Burnet44 on Dec 13, 2018 15:50:43 GMT -6
Looks like most of you missed my intent. See post on reading I wasn’t talking about any of you NN’s and Ern. Your kids There are a Bhitch-load of stuff to do out there. That pays. And no bs Wait till your grandkids go to college and it’s 300k at a state school. That shat ain’t going down. TCB posted an actual answer and I can respect that. It’s about your kids future. It’s about opportunities and isn’t that what we tell kids it’s all about? Get better do better. I would do anything for my kids. As I’m sure all of you would. My youngest got these opportunities because she sat with me and watched film for years. She knows coaches on every level and knows how they think act ect. She can also grade film better than most of you. She built relationships with a ton of people including many at the top levels of D1. She was called by a major company to interview for a management position because of these relationships. She has a shat load of perks and comes home at 5 every day. Time for hubby and kids. This is about your kids and opportunities. Which imho education doesn’t offer but can be used to get better and be better. Her and her husband teach Sunday School at church they have time for that too.
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Post by Hoss on Dec 13, 2018 16:43:00 GMT -6
Looks like most of you missed my intent. See post on reading I wasn’t talking about any of you NN’s and Ern. Your kids There are a Bhitch-load of stuff to do out there. That pays. And no bs Wait till your grandkids go to college and it’s 300k at a state school. That shat ain’t going down. TCB posted an actual answer and I can respect that. It’s about your kids future. It’s about opportunities and isn’t that what we tell kids it’s all about? Get better do better. I would do anything for my kids. As I’m sure all of you would. My youngest got these opportunities because she sat with me and watched film for years. She knows coaches on every level and knows how they think act ect. She can also grade film better than most of you. She built relationships with a ton of people including many at the top levels of D1. She was called by a major company to interview for a management position because of these relationships. She has a shat load of perks and comes home at 5 every day. Time for hubby and kids. This is about your kids and opportunities. Which imho education doesn’t offer but can be used to get better and be better. Her and her husband teach Sunday School at church they have time for that too. And how was my first response not on the same level as tcb's?
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Post by tcb on Dec 14, 2018 7:34:20 GMT -6
Looks like most of you missed my intent. See post on reading I wasn’t talking about any of you NN’s and Ern. Your kids There are a Bhitch-load of stuff to do out there. That pays. And no bs Wait till your grandkids go to college and it’s 300k at a state school. That shat ain’t going down. TCB posted an actual answer and I can respect that. It’s about your kids future. It’s about opportunities and isn’t that what we tell kids it’s all about? Get better do better. I would do anything for my kids. As I’m sure all of you would. My youngest got these opportunities because she sat with me and watched film for years. She knows coaches on every level and knows how they think act ect. She can also grade film better than most of you. She built relationships with a ton of people including many at the top levels of D1. She was called by a major company to interview for a management position because of these relationships. She has a shat load of perks and comes home at 5 every day. Time for hubby and kids. This is about your kids and opportunities. Which imho education doesn’t offer but can be used to get better and be better. Her and her husband teach Sunday School at church they have time for that too. And how was my first response not on the same level as tcb's? Because I'm better than you.
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Post by tcb on Dec 14, 2018 7:38:14 GMT -6
My whole thing was that I will never dissuade a kid from wanting to get into education, and I will encourage them to do so. We need the good eggs in this profession. I won't dissuade them from doing anything that they really want to do, however. I think the original post riled some people up because it came across as telling the future generation to NOT get into education. I disagreed, we need them to, our children need them to, our grandchildren need them to. The only thing I tell kids they shouldn't do is go to ut.
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Post by Hoss on Dec 14, 2018 7:46:45 GMT -6
Do I want my daughter to do better than me? Most definitely! If she says she wants to be a teacher and coach, I will support her all the way and hope that she is able to do better than her old dad at his game!
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Post by Hoss on Dec 14, 2018 7:48:36 GMT -6
And how was my first response not on the same level as tcb's? Because I'm better than you. You win double digit games and here we go...
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Post by tcb on Dec 14, 2018 7:51:34 GMT -6
Because I'm better than you. You win double digit games and here we go... hahaha
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Post by bigern809 on Dec 14, 2018 8:40:02 GMT -6
Looks like most of you missed my intent. See post on reading I wasn’t talking about any of you NN’s and Ern. Your kids There are a Bhitch-load of stuff to do out there. That pays. And no bs Wait till your grandkids go to college and it’s 300k at a state school. That shat ain’t going down. TCB posted an actual answer and I can respect that. It’s about your kids future. It’s about opportunities and isn’t that what we tell kids it’s all about? Get better do better. I would do anything for my kids. As I’m sure all of you would. My youngest got these opportunities because she sat with me and watched film for years. She knows coaches on every level and knows how they think act ect. She can also grade film better than most of you. She built relationships with a ton of people including many at the top levels of D1. She was called by a major company to interview for a management position because of these relationships. She has a shat load of perks and comes home at 5 every day. Time for hubby and kids. This is about your kids and opportunities. Which imho education doesn’t offer but can be used to get better and be better. Her and her husband teach Sunday School at church they have time for that too. Then why even bring anything up if you and your kids aren't involved in education anymore?
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Post by Hitch on Dec 14, 2018 9:02:07 GMT -6
My son is at WTAMU and he's majoring in Biology and he also wants to coach. He is currently coaching a JET volleyball team in which he gets paid to do so. I asked him if that's what he really wanted to do because I thought he would be great at something in the medical field. He told me he loved it and that's all I needed to know. We need folks with great passion about the profession. My son will be one of those folks. He makes me proud.
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Post by Hitch on Dec 14, 2018 9:04:31 GMT -6
My daughter is a senior here at the HS and she wants to go into physical therapy. I'm applauding her for that. We are hoping she'll get the opportunity to play at the next level while she works toward her goal of getting into the physical therapy realm. I want my kids to be happy and love what they do!
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Post by fbs on Dec 14, 2018 9:14:40 GMT -6
I have kids all the time that have recently graduated call me and talk about being a coach. I give them all the facts, then I tell them it's great if you can stomach the teaching part of it, which gets worse by the minute. then I tell them the range of money they could make over the course of their careers and I seldom hear back from them about it. I can tell you that I've thought several times about getting out, just because of how much it's changed since I've been in. I stick around for the game, the friendships and the time off. that's about it.
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