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Post by xdipster on Feb 1, 2016 10:45:11 GMT -6
agreed. kansas is going down faster than a hitch nosedive. if you think our budget woes are bad, they're about a couple of years ahead of us. We are the trouble we are in because we started doing exactly what they do. Our R's are following the same playbook as Brownback and other R governors. We may be behind, but that is exactly where we are heading.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 1, 2016 10:48:39 GMT -6
agreed. kansas is going down faster than a hitch nosedive. if you think our budget woes are bad, they're about a couple of years ahead of us. We are the trouble we are in because we started doing exactly what they do. Our R's are following the same playbook as Brownback and other R governors. We may be behind, but that is exactly where we are heading. h u h ?
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 1, 2016 10:49:31 GMT -6
I just hope the Dems can come up with a decent candidate in 2018. Think things are bad now? Imagine Scott Pruitt as governor. It can get much worse.
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Post by fbcoach78 on Feb 1, 2016 10:50:42 GMT -6
I did not hear anyone from either side really saying much until the cliff dive. Now everyone has a plan. If you think either side has your, not you're, best intentions in mind...well then you are a long lost descendant of Lebowski, or whatever WWF Superstar he is today!!
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Post by TOBC on Feb 1, 2016 10:51:43 GMT -6
i haven't voted for a republican governor since keating.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 1, 2016 10:53:03 GMT -6
I did not hear anyone from either side really saying much until the cliff dive. Now everyone has a plan. If you think either side has your, not you're, best intentions in mind...well then you are a long lost descendant of Lebowski, or whatever WWF Superstar he is today!! Disagree. Statewide dems have been talking about the hole we're putting ourselves into for some time. Thing is no one listens to them in this state. If you don't have an R next to your name, you have a hard time getting the bible voters to hear what you are saying.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 1, 2016 10:53:44 GMT -6
I miss this guy!!
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 1, 2016 10:54:55 GMT -6
I miss this guy!! Old school OK politics. Back when we expected our governors to go to prison when they left office!
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 1, 2016 10:55:23 GMT -6
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by fbcoach78 on Feb 1, 2016 10:57:08 GMT -6
Then scream louder, I listen, and like TOBC I rarely every vote R in state elections. Politicians just finger point without real solution. Screaming for the sake of screaming without a solution is no good. I don't care what we do, just get us funded. I think we can all agree on that.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 1, 2016 11:05:57 GMT -6
Then scream louder, I listen, and like TOBC I rarely every vote R in state elections. Politicians just finger point without real solution. Screaming for the sake of screaming without a solution is no good. I don't care what we do, just get us funded. I think we can all agree on that. Hey I agree with you. Both sides suck. You won't find someone who hates politicians more than me. I just blame the REP jokers a whole lot more for this current mess. Corporate welfare was their baby. They've got to own their f-up.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 1, 2016 11:08:10 GMT -6
Then scream louder, I listen, and like TOBC I rarely every vote R in state elections. Politicians just finger point without real solution. Screaming for the sake of screaming without a solution is no good. I don't care what we do, just get us funded. I think we can all agree on that. Hey I agree with you. Both sides suck. You won't find someone who hates politicians more than me. I just blame the REP jokers a whole lot more for this current mess. Corporate welfare was their baby. They've got to own their f-up. DING DING DING!!!!!!!
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 1, 2016 11:10:10 GMT -6
Citizens are to blame and not the politicians...we elect them and tolerate their BS...we dont demand more from them...a society that is ignorant to issues and problems...it is the citizens fault...
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Post by fbcoach78 on Feb 1, 2016 11:13:10 GMT -6
I agree with all you guys. It is their, and our faults!!
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 1, 2016 11:13:15 GMT -6
Citizens are to blame and not the politicians...we elect them and tolerate their BS...we dont demand more from them...a society that is ignorant to issues and problems...it is the citizens fault... You are exactly right. Problem is most of the time the voter has no choice. We have very few general elections in this state. This is the biggest reason why we just elected a teacher/coach to the Senate in our district. He felt it was important to FORCE a general election, and VIOLA he ends up winning. The dems have to force more general elections.
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Post by Hands11 on Feb 1, 2016 11:15:07 GMT -6
Citizens are to blame and not the politicians...we elect them and tolerate their BS...we dont demand more from them...a society that is ignorant to issues and problems...it is the citizens fault... Disagree! We elect them because that's all there is to pick from. A middle class citizen with values like you and I grew up with can't afford to go after these high political offices. Doesn't matter what we demand, they are going to do what they want to do regardless. They have proven that! It's the SYSTEM'S fault! They way we elect and everything.....
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Post by TOBC on Feb 1, 2016 11:29:04 GMT -6
boys, it all boils down to the almighty dollar. corporations are going to fund the republicans because they get them the tax breaks that we see now. democrats scream about the lobbyists bringing money into the elections and buying off politicians, etc. but when they get elected they do the same thing the republicans were doing. lining their pockets. they don't give a shat about us. they really don't.
and our electorate in this state is so poorly educated on the issues and candidates, they just vote for the R or D because its what someone they know told them to vote. a lot of people are too lazy to educate themselves on the issues and the candidates and vote straight party ticket. sad really.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 1, 2016 13:26:03 GMT -6
Citizens are to blame and not the politicians...we elect them and tolerate their BS...we dont demand more from them...a society that is ignorant to issues and problems...it is the citizens fault... Nope. I yell about this stuff all the time. Dornan was a great candidate with little name recognition, and he made a descent showing. Its not my fault. Their isnt one person I voted for that is in office in OKC. And I am active. And I try to get the vote out here in the reddest of the red states. You vote for em, you can claim it.
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 1, 2016 18:34:14 GMT -6
Citizens are to blame and not the politicians...we elect them and tolerate their BS...we dont demand more from them...a society that is ignorant to issues and problems...it is the citizens fault... Nope. I yell about this stuff all the time. Dornan was a great candidate with little name recognition, and he made a descent showing. Its not my fault. Their isnt one person I voted for that is in office in OKC. And I am active. And I try to get the vote out here in the reddest of the red states. You vote for em, you can claim it. Then do like my dad did and move too a blue state if you don't like it. Also you are not like the majority of citizens, you keep up with the issues. Most don't.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 22:22:49 GMT -6
Citizens are to blame and not the politicians...we elect them and tolerate their BS...we dont demand more from them...a society that is ignorant to issues and problems...it is the citizens fault... Disagree! We elect them because that's all there is to pick from. A middle class citizen with values like you and I grew up with can't afford to go after these high political offices. Doesn't matter what we demand, they are going to do what they want to do regardless. They have proven that! It's the SYSTEM'S fault! They way we elect and everything..... That's the truth. I don't know what it costs to run for a state office, I just know it's probably enough to break a man if you don't win. The guy that is my state Rep is one of the biggest arse hats up there, not once had he or any of his people ever responded to any of my emails about concerns of what is going on up there. I've about convinced my wife to let me run, just need the money now.
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