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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 24, 2016 10:56:03 GMT -6
We are getting close to the 1984. I don't know about that.
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Post by Lebowski on Feb 24, 2016 10:58:02 GMT -6
I dont even know who i am voting for.
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Post by fbcoach78 on Feb 24, 2016 11:00:24 GMT -6
We are getting close to the 1984. You think we are getting closer to Capitalism, then Socialism??
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Post by TOBC on Feb 24, 2016 11:01:29 GMT -6
This is a very bad bill. Vote them out..but Dip, how big should the government be? Should they have their hand in effecting every decision you make? Its a great question. While I know it seems that I have all the answers, this one is the real question. The goal of socialization, such as in education, roads or other transportation systems, or workplace regulations, must only be there to make sure the playing field is accessible to all. Not fair, but accessible. Its the only thing that can keep capitalism going. Socialism without capitalism is communism. That sucks. Is proven unworkable. Capitalism without some aspects of socialism is distopian society, like in the book 1984. We will always be fighting for the correct balance. very good description. if only there was a candidate for president that would look at it that way. bernie straight up wants the socialism without the capitalism.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 24, 2016 11:09:12 GMT -6
Its a great question. While I know it seems that I have all the answers, this one is the real question. The goal of socialization, such as in education, roads or other transportation systems, or workplace regulations, must only be there to make sure the playing field is accessible to all. Not fair, but accessible. Its the only thing that can keep capitalism going. Socialism without capitalism is communism. That sucks. Is proven unworkable. Capitalism without some aspects of socialism is distopian society, like in the book 1984. We will always be fighting for the correct balance. very good description. if only there was a candidate for president that would look at it that way. bernie straight up wants the socialism without the capitalism. Bernie wants the capitalism...so he can TAX IT TO PAY for everything he says he's going to do.
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Post by Hitch on Feb 24, 2016 11:22:04 GMT -6
I dont even know who i am voting for. You don't even know how to turn a heater on. #fliptheswitchtiteass
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2016 11:38:35 GMT -6
We are getting close to the 1984. I don't know about that. With this bill in this state.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2016 11:41:47 GMT -6
very good description. if only there was a candidate for president that would look at it that way. bernie straight up wants the socialism without the capitalism. Bernie wants the capitalism...so he can TAX IT TO PAY for everything he says he's going to do. Well put. The funny thing is, we all get lost in terms of liberal and conservative. We finally have a truly revolutionary(liberal because its change minded) fiscally conservative(because it pays for what it buys) idea. And that is Bernie. Here is a question: Which is more conservative, spending without paying for it or just paying for it? Why I have always bragged about being a pro-tax and spend liberal.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 24, 2016 11:44:27 GMT -6
Bernie wants the capitalism...so he can TAX IT TO PAY for everything he says he's going to do. Well put. The funny thing is, we all get lost in terms of liberal and conservative. We finally have a truly revolutionary(liberal because its change minded) fiscally conservative(because it pays for what it buys) idea. And that is Bernie. Here is a question: Which is more conservative, spending without paying for it or just paying for it? Why I have always bragged about being a pro-tax and spend liberal. My problem is he wants to TAX too much to PAY for too many things.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2016 11:45:37 GMT -6
We are getting close to the 1984. You think we are getting closer to Capitalism, then Socialism?? Mind set yes. Although if you look at percentage of our economy that has gone from private sector to the public sector, or vice versa, under Obama, the number hasn't changed. All those guys saying how Obama is doing this or doing that, and the numbers don't show it. If somebody can disprove this, and not say its a gut feeling, then I might get some of the venom that is directed towards Obama. He has helped change our society, although I think most changes were happening either with or without him. He was late to the movement on several big changes since he took office.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2016 11:47:23 GMT -6
Well put. The funny thing is, we all get lost in terms of liberal and conservative. We finally have a truly revolutionary(liberal because its change minded) fiscally conservative(because it pays for what it buys) idea. And that is Bernie. Here is a question: Which is more conservative, spending without paying for it or just paying for it? Why I have always bragged about being a pro-tax and spend liberal. My problem is he wants to TAX too much to PAY for too many things. True. Although I do like his narrowing down of what is considered the middle class, and I do like how closing this loophole pays for this, and a tax on this revenue that is currently not being taxed pays for that. I would look at the bottom line on savings before making a decision either way.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 24, 2016 12:54:48 GMT -6
4th graders dont vote
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2016 13:20:18 GMT -6
Unless they have been held back a lot.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 24, 2016 13:36:38 GMT -6
only in blow a homa
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Post by Hitch on Feb 24, 2016 13:38:55 GMT -6
Anywhere if they've been held back a LOT. Do the math........
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Post by almichaels on Feb 28, 2016 20:00:31 GMT -6
They also have a school voucher bill that will come up in a few weeks, despite the fact that about 75% of the public is against it.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 28, 2016 20:46:14 GMT -6
typical govt
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Post by xdipster on Feb 29, 2016 9:04:28 GMT -6
you misspelled right wingnut destruction burnett. but did spell typical right.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 29, 2016 9:55:43 GMT -6
Can't spell burnet as usual
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Post by TOBC on Feb 29, 2016 10:23:25 GMT -6
They also have a school voucher bill that will come up in a few weeks, despite the fact that about 75% of the public is against it. those clown have zero inclination to do what the voting public put them in there to do. i've called my congressmen numerous times to voice my opposition to this bill.
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