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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:15:35 GMT -6
I have been bothered by the cuts our educational system is going to take. I am not good with just complaining about the politicians, and complaining with not plan or action to make it better. I dont believe that a teacher strike or going to the capitol will help at all. Just makes the politicians angry and they use it as "See look at those whiny teachers". I also dont think just doing something like having people call there representatives on a certain date will accomplish anything. It will just make them miserable for one day and then everyone will go back to their daily lives, complaining about an issue and doing nothing to fix the issue. I am not good with us complaining and being doom and gloom. Lets do something about it, instead of wasting our time with negative energy that is accomplishing nothing. We just want to point fingers at those who are to "blame", but what are we doing to fix it as citizens...nothing and the politicians love that because thats how they want us to respond.
So here is a thought...since educators wont get the support from the state for fixing the budget issue, we need to find a way to go on the offensive instead of defensive. I believe that parents and community members are the ones that can get something done. So if a educator calls their representative, they need to call as a parent or concerned community member, the fact they are a teacher means nothing to the politicians. We must make them fearing being re-elected. So the problem I see is that we can tell the parents and community members to call but there are a couple issues with this.If they only call once this will do nothing. We have to inundate their offices with calls until the issue is addressed. Make it to where they have to address it to be able to stop the calls so they can function. Next is most wont call cause they will not know what to say or even how to get the number to call.
So how about all the school districts having meetings to inform their parents and communities of the issues we are facing and how bad it is fixing to get. Give them the numbers and give them information and things to say when they call with their concerns. I think this would cause the politicians to worry about losing votes because we would be running a campaign against with just by getting their name out there in a negative way. I also think the parents and community members need to commit to making a call a week until the situation is resolved. It would have to be more than just one region on board to get this done. Thoughts?
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 9:24:59 GMT -6
I have been bothered by the cuts our educational system is going to take. I am not good with just complaining about the politicians, and complaining with not plan or action to make it better. I dont believe that a teacher strike or going to the capitol will help at all. Just makes the politicians angry and they use it as "See look at those whiny teachers". I also dont think just doing something like having people call there representatives on a certain date will accomplish anything. It will just make them miserable for one day and then everyone will go back to their daily lives, complaining about an issue and doing nothing to fix the issue. I am not good with us complaining and being doom and gloom. Lets do something about it, instead of wasting our time with negative energy that is accomplishing nothing. We just want to point fingers at those who are to "blame", but what are we doing to fix it as citizens...nothing and the politicians love that because thats how they want us to respond. So here is a thought...since educators wont get the support from the state for fixing the budget issue, we need to find a way to go on the offensive instead of defensive. I believe that parents and community members are the ones that can get something done. So if a educator calls their representative, they need to call as a parent or concerned community member, the fact they are a teacher means nothing to the politicians. We must make them fearing being re-elected. So the problem I see is that we can tell the parents and community members to call but there are a couple issues with this.If they only call once this will do nothing. We have to inundate their offices with calls until the issue is addressed. Make it to where they have to address it to be able to stop the calls so they can function. Next is most wont call cause they will not know what to say or even how to get the number to call. So how about all the school districts having meetings to inform their parents and communities of the issues we are facing and how bad it is fixing to get. Give them the numbers and give them information and things to say when they call with their concerns. I think this would cause the politicians to worry about losing votes because we would be running a campaign against with just by getting their name out there in a negative way. I also think the parents and community members need to commit to making a call a week until the situation is resolved. It would have to be more than just one region on board to get this done. Thoughts? Our district has a group that lobbies the legislature on behalf of the parents. They have regular meetings during the session to keep parents informed about the bills of concern.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 9:27:00 GMT -6
I do think we are coming to a point where we may have to walk out. It probably won't be this session, but possibly next year. If parents lose their free babysitting, they'll get interested in a hurry.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Mar 1, 2016 9:28:54 GMT -6
I have been bothered by the cuts our educational system is going to take. I am not good with just complaining about the politicians, and complaining with not plan or action to make it better. I dont believe that a teacher strike or going to the capitol will help at all. Just makes the politicians angry and they use it as "See look at those whiny teachers". I also dont think just doing something like having people call there representatives on a certain date will accomplish anything. It will just make them miserable for one day and then everyone will go back to their daily lives, complaining about an issue and doing nothing to fix the issue. I am not good with us complaining and being doom and gloom. Lets do something about it, instead of wasting our time with negative energy that is accomplishing nothing. We just want to point fingers at those who are to "blame", but what are we doing to fix it as citizens...nothing and the politicians love that because thats how they want us to respond. So here is a thought...since educators wont get the support from the state for fixing the budget issue, we need to find a way to go on the offensive instead of defensive. I believe that parents and community members are the ones that can get something done. So if a educator calls their representative, they need to call as a parent or concerned community member, the fact they are a teacher means nothing to the politicians. We must make them fearing being re-elected. So the problem I see is that we can tell the parents and community members to call but there are a couple issues with this.If they only call once this will do nothing. We have to inundate their offices with calls until the issue is addressed. Make it to where they have to address it to be able to stop the calls so they can function. Next is most wont call cause they will not know what to say or even how to get the number to call. So how about all the school districts having meetings to inform their parents and communities of the issues we are facing and how bad it is fixing to get. Give them the numbers and give them information and things to say when they call with their concerns. I think this would cause the politicians to worry about losing votes because we would be running a campaign against with just by getting their name out there in a negative way. I also think the parents and community members need to commit to making a call a week until the situation is resolved. It would have to be more than just one region on board to get this done. Thoughts? Agreed. Our town hall meeting is Thursday night. I've been working for a week regarding exactly what to say and how to say it.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:29:50 GMT -6
But why what on it coming to that point. Try to do something now. Try to get the parents and community members involved now.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:31:50 GMT -6
Republican or democrat at this point doesn't matter. Had to be an us verse them mentality cause regardless of political affiliation that's what our elected officials have made it over the past few decades and we have let them make it that way.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:33:26 GMT -6
We will also have to inform them of who their reps are and give them the numbers to call. Assume they know nothing and make it easy on them to help, if not they won't.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 9:33:37 GMT -6
But why what on it coming to that point. Try to do something now. Try to get the parents and community members involved now. We are trying but they ARE NOT LISTENING. My buddy that's in the senate says none of them care what anyone has to say. All their kids go to private schools. They could give a shat what anyone else thinks. They are right wing ideologues.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:43:36 GMT -6
KW, you are making it a us (Democrats) verse them (Republican) argument. How has that worked for us? As citizens we will have to rise above this if we want change...if not we will get what we always have...which us nothing spectacular in the past 40-50 years...there is power in numbers and knowledge...
Also I think it would be more effective if the school districts would get together and come up with a plan of how they are going to sell it to their communities and parents. Would be more uniform and organized. We would have to prepare the people calling for the BS answers they will and could get so they dont fall for their pacifying lies.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:44:40 GMT -6
Democrat, Republican, or Independent politicians all have the same fear...not being reelected...
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:46:54 GMT -6
Just feel we (citizens) have, as a majority, have taken a defeatist or indifferent attitude toward many things. There has to be a way to change that before everything goes to h3ll in a hand basket.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 9:47:19 GMT -6
KW, you are making it a us (Democrats) verse them (Republican) argument. How has that worked for us? As citizens we will have to rise above this if we want change...if not we will get what we always have...which us nothing spectacular in the past 40-50 years...there is power in numbers and knowledge... Also I think it would be more effective if the school districts would get together and come up with a plan of how they are going to sell it to their communities and parents. Would be more uniform and organized. We would have to prepare the people calling for the BS answers they will and could get so they dont fall for their pacifying lies. I'm not making any argument. They are right wing ideologues. Period. I don't believe parents will truly get involved until they feel the cuts for themselves. We are trying hard to get them involved, but it's a small group that stays engaged.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 9:53:19 GMT -6
Wasn't Obama for charter schools? Pretty sure he is far from being on the right side of thinking. I see what you're saying though about the parents. This was just a thought.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 9:58:59 GMT -6
Wasn't Obama for charter schools? Pretty sure he is far from being on the right side of thinking. I see what you're saying though about the parents. This was just a thought. I'm not trying to rain on your parade. I commend you for wanting to DO something. I've been in this gig 17 years now (I'm getting old). It's been bad the whole time. Never enough funding. Parents won't pay attention until they feel some pain.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 10:00:56 GMT -6
Have the republicans been in control all 17 years?
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 10:01:33 GMT -6
And thank you...didnt think you was trying to rain on my parade...
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 10:03:27 GMT -6
the vast majority of politicians suck at life regardless of what political affiliation they are. Look at who we get to vote for as president...3 middle school boys talking trash to each other, a criminal, or a over the top socialist...all 5 suck at life...
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 10:04:00 GMT -6
Have the republicans been in control all 17 years? Not both houses. Keating was governor when I started. What an asshat. This is not a party thing, BUT right now we are dealing with right wing ideologues that get all their cues from ALEC, etc.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 10:04:43 GMT -6
the vast majority of politicians suck at life regardless of what political affiliation they are. Look at who we get to vote for as president...3 middle school boys talking trash to each other, a criminal, or a over the top socialist...all 5 suck at life... I'm not sure a good person can get elected.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 10:06:06 GMT -6
the vast majority of politicians suck at life regardless of what political affiliation they are. Look at who we get to vote for as president...3 middle school boys talking trash to each other, a criminal, or a over the top socialist...all 5 suck at life... I'm not sure a good person can get elected. I think you are correct, sir!
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