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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 10:18:02 GMT -6
I'm just so sick of the politics of education. I've become so jaded.
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Post by Lebowski on Mar 1, 2016 10:29:26 GMT -6
Get every football coach to run for an elected position. Session is only Feb-May. $38,000
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 10:31:53 GMT -6
Get every football coach to run for an elected position. Session is only Feb-May. $38,000 You cannot accept a dime from a school once you are elected.
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Post by fbcoach78 on Mar 1, 2016 10:37:33 GMT -6
Let's keep our jobs and do the other part free. I am sure there are plenty of supts that would go for it.
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Post by skinny51 on Mar 1, 2016 10:38:09 GMT -6
Get every football coach to run for an elected position. Session is only Feb-May. $38,000 Not sure that I am qualified for political office...kinda like most of the jokers that we elect...
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 10:38:59 GMT -6
Let's keep our jobs and do the other part free. I am sure there are plenty of supts that would go for it. Wish you could, but state law won't allow it. Can't even be a sub once you've been elected.
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Post by email on Mar 1, 2016 10:43:08 GMT -6
I have been bothered by the cuts our educational system is going to take. I am not good with just complaining about the politicians, and complaining with not plan or action to make it better. I dont believe that a teacher strike or going to the capitol will help at all. Just makes the politicians angry and they use it as "See look at those whiny teachers". I also dont think just doing something like having people call there representatives on a certain date will accomplish anything. It will just make them miserable for one day and then everyone will go back to their daily lives, complaining about an issue and doing nothing to fix the issue. I am not good with us complaining and being doom and gloom. Lets do something about it, instead of wasting our time with negative energy that is accomplishing nothing. We just want to point fingers at those who are to "blame", but what are we doing to fix it as citizens...nothing and the politicians love that because thats how they want us to respond. So here is a thought...since educators wont get the support from the state for fixing the budget issue, we need to find a way to go on the offensive instead of defensive. I believe that parents and community members are the ones that can get something done. So if a educator calls their representative, they need to call as a parent or concerned community member, the fact they are a teacher means nothing to the politicians. We must make them fearing being re-elected. So the problem I see is that we can tell the parents and community members to call but there are a couple issues with this.If they only call once this will do nothing. We have to inundate their offices with calls until the issue is addressed. Make it to where they have to address it to be able to stop the calls so they can function. Next is most wont call cause they will not know what to say or even how to get the number to call. So how about all the school districts having meetings to inform their parents and communities of the issues we are facing and how bad it is fixing to get. Give them the numbers and give them information and things to say when they call with their concerns. I think this would cause the politicians to worry about losing votes because we would be running a campaign against with just by getting their name out there in a negative way. I also think the parents and community members need to commit to making a call a week until the situation is resolved. It would have to be more than just one region on board to get this done. Thoughts? Agreed. Our town hall meeting is Thursday night. I've been working for a week regarding exactly what to say and how to say it. We did a town hall a few weeks ago And 8 teachers and 3 dudes running for rep showed up and like 2 parents was it. And then the politicians put on there web and Facebook pages that they didn't understand what the hub bub was about and didn't understand 779 In regards to the sales tax and where the money would go.
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Post by TOBC on Mar 1, 2016 10:43:33 GMT -6
only thing that will get parents fully involved is when schools go to or threaten to go to a 4 day school week. parents will either have to choose to pay for daycare or take off of work for that extra "home" day. once it hits them in the pockets, that's when they finally get pizzed off enough to rally and do something. trust me, if i had to pay for a day of daycare for my kindergartner, i'll be shelling out about an extra $80 a month. which would be on top of the $420 we're paying for baby.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 1, 2016 10:45:25 GMT -6
KW, you are making it a us (Democrats) verse them (Republican) argument. How has that worked for us? As citizens we will have to rise above this if we want change...if not we will get what we always have...which us nothing spectacular in the past 40-50 years...there is power in numbers and knowledge... Also I think it would be more effective if the school districts would get together and come up with a plan of how they are going to sell it to their communities and parents. Would be more uniform and organized. We would have to prepare the people calling for the BS answers they will and could get so they dont fall for their pacifying lies. I'm not making any argument. They are right wing ideologues. Period. I don't believe parents will truly get involved until they feel the cuts for themselves. We are trying hard to get them involved, but it's a small group that stays engaged. h3ll, how can it not be construed as a Republican vs Democrat argument. Republican's in our state and the south right now are actively pushing Koch brother, pre-written legislation through ALEC that is designed to end all public education. Democrats aren't doing this. A vote for Republican's, at the state level, is a vote against education. Its not a vote for abortion or gun control if you vote Democrat at the state level, because even the dems in this state won't cross that bridge. So what the h3ll do Repubs vote for in Oklahoma? I can't wrap my head around that. Any mandate from the federal level concerning education is laughable. If it doesn't have a Title____, it isn't federal monies in schools. We are talking about 10% here.
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Post by TOBC on Mar 1, 2016 10:47:58 GMT -6
exacto.
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Post by email on Mar 1, 2016 10:49:51 GMT -6
only thing that will get parents fully involved is when schools go to or threaten to go to a 4 day school week. parents will either have to choose to pay for daycare or take off of work for that extra "home" day. once it hits them in the pockets, that's when they finally get pizzed off enough to rally and do something. trust me, if i had to pay for a day of daycare for my kindergartner, i'll be shelling out about an extra $80 a month. which would be on top of the $420 we're paying for baby. I've heard some schools are going to charge for the 5th day, to let parents drop their kids off. Don't know how that will fly
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Post by xdipster on Mar 1, 2016 10:56:51 GMT -6
I love the idea of having a town hall meeting, but they need to be educated about how outside forces have completely dismantled our state government. There is a reason that Kansas, Oklahoma, and several other states are hurting so bad. At the state level, look at which states are adding jobs and providing the services that state govs should. And I'm talking about in the last 10 years or so. Oklahoma has cut 25% of our education budget since 2008. And that was last years totals. What else do we have left to cut?
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Post by TOBC on Mar 1, 2016 10:58:38 GMT -6
nothing. down to the bare minimum as it is.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 1, 2016 11:06:13 GMT -6
nothing. down to the bare minimum as it is. Nope but we keep cutting taxes.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 1, 2016 11:15:17 GMT -6
Truth. Anybody that just wants to put this on downturn in Oil is playing a shell game. And who keeps cutting those taxes?
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Post by almichaels on Mar 1, 2016 16:57:01 GMT -6
I'm not making any argument. They are right wing ideologues. Period. I don't believe parents will truly get involved until they feel the cuts for themselves. We are trying hard to get them involved, but it's a small group that stays engaged. h3ll, how can it not be construed as a Republican vs Democrat argument. Republican's in our state and the south right now are actively pushing Koch brother, pre-written legislation through ALEC that is designed to end all public education. Democrats aren't doing this. A vote for Republican's, at the state level, is a vote against education. Its not a vote for abortion or gun control if you vote Democrat at the state level, because even the dems in this state won't cross that bridge. So what the h3ll do Repubs vote for in Oklahoma? I can't wrap my head around that. Any mandate from the federal level concerning education is laughable. If it doesn't have a Title____, it isn't federal monies in schools. We are talking about 10% here. Exactly. I've heard so many colleagues saying stuff like, "I can't believe they are trying to pass voucher laws!" My response is, "Why the h3ll can't you believe it, the Oklahoma GOP has been telling you they have wanted to get this passed since Keating. But, all you heard was God, guns, gheys, and abortion."
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Post by Burnet44 on Mar 1, 2016 18:11:31 GMT -6
its all about money no matter where it is
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Post by email on Mar 6, 2016 19:35:16 GMT -6
Word is they are trying to organize a Capitol rally on Tuesday of spring break March 15.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2016 8:03:30 GMT -6
Word is they are trying to organize a Capitol rally on Tuesday of spring break March 15. Won't do one bit of good. Waste of time.
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Post by email on Mar 7, 2016 8:19:59 GMT -6
I heard it's the Oklahoma Pta that is trying to organize it And a lot of teachers are suggesting no return after spring break!
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