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Post by skinny51 on Apr 18, 2016 10:20:20 GMT -6
Most people dont just work one job anymore. Work all the time to go in the hole. NO WAY...SOME BUT NOT MOST...COME ON LETS BE REALISTIC HERE...
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Post by xdipster on Apr 18, 2016 10:21:59 GMT -6
Its not a gut feeling. Look at the stats for those that are getting aid and how many hours they work. We don't understand.
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Post by Hitch on Apr 18, 2016 10:23:10 GMT -6
I'm mowing yards to try to get some extra fundage.......
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Post by xdipster on Apr 18, 2016 10:23:54 GMT -6
I'm selling plasma.
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Post by skinny51 on Apr 18, 2016 10:24:08 GMT -6
I do not and will not ever trust stats or numbers that are given by our government or anyone financed by our government...all skewed...
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Post by skinny51 on Apr 18, 2016 10:24:58 GMT -6
I need to get on this plan...just lay there and have them bring me food!!!
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Post by xdipster on Apr 18, 2016 10:26:03 GMT -6
Was gonna sell some seed, but the viewing material isn't naughty enough to help out.
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Post by Hitch on Apr 18, 2016 10:27:04 GMT -6
LOLOLOL
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Post by tcb on Apr 18, 2016 14:03:34 GMT -6
I think people's work ethic is chosen. Even a poor person can make it through college (yes, student loans have to be paid back, and a person can pay them back...h3ll, I did). I had many friends who got zero help from their family through college, and they made it. I had others who could barely make it and were working with me part-time at Discount Tire. One of them is now the VP of Oklahoma for that company....he busted his arse and worked his way up. Work ethic is a choice!
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Post by Hitch on Apr 18, 2016 15:10:29 GMT -6
TROOF!!!!!
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Post by tcb on Apr 18, 2016 16:45:31 GMT -6
Most people dont just work one job anymore. Work all the time to go in the hole. They should better themselves so that only one job is needed (get better educated, learn more skills, work harder, etc)....or they can give up a few things that they think they need. That includes all of you that work a second job in the summer, sorry if it offends.
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Post by Hitch on Apr 19, 2016 12:05:07 GMT -6
no offense taken. Good points all around. I do it to have a little more spending money on things I prolly don't need.
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Post by xdipster on Apr 20, 2016 6:38:16 GMT -6
love the chatter. A few years ago I thought the same about the minimum hike as most of you. I understand that side of the argument, especially when worried about inflation.
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Post by tcb on Apr 20, 2016 7:22:09 GMT -6
Very good discussion. I don't understand any part of their argument. If you want more than minimum...do more than minimum. If someone wants a raise, they need to go earn a raise...not be bailed out by the govt.
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Post by xdipster on Apr 20, 2016 8:01:09 GMT -6
Very good discussion. I don't understand any part of their argument. If you want more than minimum...do more than minimum. If someone wants a raise, they need to go earn a raise...not be bailed out by the govt. In a perfect world, you are absolutely correct and that's the way it should be. CEO pay and blue collar pay have a wider gap than ever. Production is up. Etc etc. The only people that haven't felt the recovery are the hourly wage earners, whose wages have been stagnant for 30 years. How do we fix that? They are the majority of consumers in this country. If they can't consume, then we don't survive economically.
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Post by tonymontana on Apr 20, 2016 8:01:20 GMT -6
Very good discussion. I don't understand any part of their argument. If you want more than minimum...do more than minimum. If someone wants a raise, they need to go earn a raise.. .not be bailed out by the govt.Here's the double standard that I see with so many of my R friends....poor get bailed out by gov. they should work harder. S&L Co.s and Car Co.s get bailed out by gov. they deserve it. I don't get this way of thinking and never will.
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Post by xdipster on Apr 20, 2016 8:36:55 GMT -6
Good point Tony. Here is the rub that I don't get. The rank and file would disagree with you. They are God fearing, hard working people like most Dems. The S&L and other bank guys that have power in the party don't see it that way, and think they are entitled to it. The media doesn't make the point you just did, and the party elite aren't going to tell on themselves. By the way, Dems in charge of banks are the same way. There just arent as many higher ups in the financial sector that are Dems. Thats why Obama went with many repubs as his financial team coming in.
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Post by skinny51 on Apr 20, 2016 9:46:35 GMT -6
had to do it...sorry fellas...
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Post by tcb on Apr 20, 2016 9:55:22 GMT -6
1) Hourly wage workers can consume plenty. Many people are buying things they don't need, but that's their choice. I really don't understand why they think they need help buying food for their family when they are driving an SUV and a top of the line smartphone.
2) I don't think the govt should help those big companies either.
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Post by Burnet44 on Apr 20, 2016 21:00:02 GMT -6
1 greed 2 greed for votes
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