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Post by bigern809 on May 3, 2016 8:53:30 GMT -6
In an interesting position fellas and thought I'd throw it out to get some opinions/advice.
I've been coaching for 4 years now, all at the small school level. A-AAA. And I have had a lot of success and been in places at the "right time". I've now been a head coach, which was a dream of mine and we'll be playing for area this Friday.
I recently have said that I am looking for another job. There are some red flags popping up and kids, good, athletic kids, are leaving. I went on 2 interviews yesterday and have another one lined up for next week. Both went great yesterday, but one stuck out substantially more. It's a 4A school in a VERY affluent area. I LOVED the AD and Girls Coordinator, amazing facilities, and it would be inclusion so NO LESSON PLANS OR GRADING!!!! Plus, without coaching stipends, it would be an $18,000 pay raise. Sounds almost too good to be true, right?
So, my conundrum is that there is not a spot open for "my sport". We all have our #1's that we need. Not to say that there won't be one next year, etc. I think I may have "tapped out" in everything I have wanted to accomplish at the small school level. This would be an amazing opportunity to get a foot into a good, bigger program and to really make a name in the bigger school arena.
Has anyone been in a situation as such, or know someone who has? Or have any insight for a young coach looking to move up in the world?
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Post by xdipster on May 3, 2016 8:57:07 GMT -6
Did they give you the impression that you could get into the sport of your choice in the future? If not, don't settle. Keep building your resume so that dream job will be there for you to grab. I do see that you may have other reasons to leave though. Do a cost/benefit analysis to see where you best fit.
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Post by Okie on May 3, 2016 8:57:37 GMT -6
after 10 years of being a coordinator...I took a freshman gig just to get my foot in the door at one of the best programs in our state...after two years I'm on the varsity staff and the happiest I've been in my career.
If you know its right for you and will make you happy...go for it.
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Post by TOBC on May 3, 2016 8:58:34 GMT -6
take the job. although there isn't a spot now doesn't mean one can't open up soon. i would ask to help out with "my sport" until a paying spot opened. that way you've been around the program, the kids know you, and it would make sense to put you in a spot when one opened up. just my opinion.
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Post by Okie on May 3, 2016 8:59:27 GMT -6
yep..."volunteer" to show them you're serious.
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Post by strongdog on May 3, 2016 9:05:57 GMT -6
Sounds like a good gig. $18000 raise can be very enticing too
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Post by bigern809 on May 3, 2016 9:09:26 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Everything y'all said, was the exact conversation I had with a friend last night. It felt good, probably one of the best feelings I've had from an interview.
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Post by bigern809 on May 3, 2016 9:10:02 GMT -6
Did they give you the impression that you could get into the sport of your choice in the future? If not, don't settle. Keep building your resume so that dream job will be there for you to grab. I do see that you may have other reasons to leave though. Do a cost/benefit analysis to see where you best fit. Yes, they did.
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Post by strongdog on May 3, 2016 9:16:33 GMT -6
Not to high jack a your thread but, I recently accepted a coaching job. Not my dream job but it gets me out of what I can see being a very toxic work environment in the near future. A good friend of mine who I've gotten to coach with the past 3 years got his first head gig and asked me to go with him. It is a private school in Tyler that has had very little success in football. My reasons for leaving were getting to coach with my buddy longer, a little pay increase, and the opportunity to build a winning program. It was basically a lateral move (DC to DC) but there are too many red flags going up here. AD was only renewed for 1 year (it's usually 3 years), new supt, school board elections (of people wanting AD out), kids transferring left and right. Seriously, we are losing at least 5 kids next year (and they are studs) to a private school in the same town I'm in. On top of that we are going into a new district where most everyone but us has won a state championship in the past 5-10 years. My relationship with the AD has been a little strained mostly because he is a micromanager and that's very hard to deal with. I get it though, he's freaking out about his job security and is in panic mode. My advice is to take jobs when they come along, just my story and 2 cents.
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Post by kennywayne9 on May 3, 2016 9:20:14 GMT -6
I went through something similar about 10-11 years ago. I was the OC at a small school. We had been quite successful and were coming off a year where we went 11-1 and were ranked quite high all year. Our HC resigned in Feb and the board hired one of the admins son (coaching at another school) BEFORE I even knew the HC had resigned. HC was pissed because he had assumed I would get the gig. So now the question is, what do I do now? I knew I could not stay. I don't have a huge ego, but I had to get out of there. I made contact with an friend who was the DC at one of the 6A schools in the area. He got my in touch with their HC. Same situation as Ern. No gig at the varsity level. I could coach 8th or 9th grade, but there was no teaching assignment in my field open. Seemed like a lost cause. HC encouraged me to go take the SS test because they had a history opening. I find out in July that I passed and would be coaching 9th grade football. I worked their summer program all summer just trying to make an impression that I was not merely a JH coach. I was going to make them a hand. During clinic week, my buddy the DC was offered a HC gig. This left a varsity spot open. I got a call the next day that I was going to coach varsity after all. I've know been at this level for 11 years. I had to check my ego, but it was all worth it.
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Post by bigern809 on May 3, 2016 9:23:53 GMT -6
SD, that sounds almost exactly what the deal is here. I can count 8 kids on my hand right now that have confirmed they are moving. We don't have many good kids to start with, but these are my studs on the girls side. There's been issues w the supt and AD also. AD actually just took a job yesterday so that's a load off of me right now. Too many red flags have been popping up. I was very humbled that I was even called for an interview at this place. It's one of my "unicorns". Thanks for sharing.
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Post by bigern809 on May 3, 2016 9:27:57 GMT -6
I went through something similar about 10-11 years ago. I was the OC at a small school. We had been quite successful and were coming off a year where we went 11-1 and were ranked quite high all year. Our HC resigned in Feb and the board hired one of the admins son (coaching at another school) BEFORE I even knew the HC had resigned. HC was pissed because he had assumed I would get the gig. So now the question is, what do I do now? I knew I could not stay. I don't have a huge ego, but I had to get out of there. I made contact with an friend who was the DC at one of the 6A schools in the area. He got my in touch with their HC. Same situation as Ern. No gig at the varsity level. I could coach 8th or 9th grade, but there was no teaching assignment in my field open. Seemed like a lost cause. HC encouraged me to go take the SS test because they had a history opening. I find out in July that I passed and would be coaching 9th grade football. I worked their summer program all summer just trying to make an impression that I was not merely a JH coach. I was going to make them a hand. During clinic week, my buddy the DC was offered a HC gig. This left a varsity spot open. I got a call the next day that I was going to coach varsity after all. I've know been at this level for 11 years. I had to check my ego, but it was all worth it. good stuff
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Post by Burnet44 on May 3, 2016 9:28:47 GMT -6
I LOVED the AD and Girls Coordinator, amazing facilities, and it would be inclusion so NO LESSON PLANS OR GRADING!!!! Plus, without coaching stipends, it would be an $18,000 pay raise. get raise no testing or plans great facilities like people you work with this one job will increase your retirement 85 bucks a month the first year/1020 a year and if you stay 5 years at current increase without a rasise it would be 415 a month / 4980 a year no brainer take it plan for the furure it will be here before you know it
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Post by Hitch on May 3, 2016 10:41:43 GMT -6
Great advice, Burnet! Solid post
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Post by texasleaguer on May 3, 2016 11:12:44 GMT -6
I went from a 2A to a 6A three years ago that told me flat out in the interview I won't be coaching baseball. I visited with the head baseball guy told him I wanted to help out and whatnot, so I started coming out there after track practice and helping wherever I could. After about a month of that the coordinator magically found some stipend money for me and I worked it on up from there. Was a varsity asst last year, and first asst this year. Point of the story.... It can definitely work out in your favor.
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Post by TOBC on May 3, 2016 11:14:06 GMT -6
all about getting that foot in.
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Post by Lebowski on May 3, 2016 11:32:38 GMT -6
And working for well respected people.
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Post by Burnet44 on May 3, 2016 12:00:29 GMT -6
Great advice, Burnet! Solid post yes I am contrary to peoples belief here no one and I mean no one here will support coaches and teachers like I do I am so old school many here dont get it its ok feafef look it up
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Post by Burnet44 on May 3, 2016 12:00:48 GMT -6
Great advice, Burnet! Solid post solid truth
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Post by Hitch on May 3, 2016 13:21:42 GMT -6
Great advice, Burnet! Solid post yes I am contrary to peoples belief here no one and I mean no one here will support coaches and teachers like I do I am so old school many here dont get it its ok feafef look it up Don't bruise your hand from patting yourself on the back so hard!
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