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Post by TOBC on Dec 15, 2016 12:28:35 GMT -6
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 15, 2016 12:51:08 GMT -6
Very good article. Isn't that what we have been discussing on here for a while.
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Post by TOBC on Dec 15, 2016 12:51:23 GMT -6
yes sir.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 12:57:46 GMT -6
We screwed many other classes up to help 16 schools (well 15 right now) compete? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 15, 2016 13:06:20 GMT -6
We screwed many other classes up to help 16 schools (well 15 right now) compete? Doesn't make a lot of sense. I can't disagree. If 6A division 2 had say 32 teams, last years numbers would range from enrollments of 1769-905, 6A division 1 would range from 4872-1877. It sucks to be on the bottom anyway you go about it.
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Post by Hands11 on Dec 15, 2016 13:42:07 GMT -6
So whats the solution??
Do you make a rule that says if you have a certain number of enrollment that you have to field 2 varsity football teams??
So Union and BA would have 2 teams regardless if there HS is split or not?? That's the only way it could be even.
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Dec 15, 2016 21:28:27 GMT -6
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Post by email on Dec 15, 2016 21:28:27 GMT -6
So whats the solution?? Do you make a rule that says if you have a certain number of enrollment that you have to field 2 varsity football teams?? So Union and BA would have 2 teams regardless if there HS is split or not?? That's the only way it could be even. Or u tell west side schools to step up, and quit having your header and coordinators teach full loads and get the staffs bigger, especially at the junior high levels
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Post by jmstreeter on Dec 16, 2016 9:02:06 GMT -6
So whats the solution?? Do you make a rule that says if you have a certain number of enrollment that you have to field 2 varsity football teams?? So Union and BA would have 2 teams regardless if there HS is split or not?? That's the only way it could be even. Or u tell west side schools to step up, and quit having your header and coordinators teach full loads and get the staffs bigger, especially at the junior high levels NO shat!!!!
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 16, 2016 9:22:05 GMT -6
So whats the solution?? Do you make a rule that says if you have a certain number of enrollment that you have to field 2 varsity football teams?? So Union and BA would have 2 teams regardless if there HS is split or not?? That's the only way it could be even. Or u tell west side schools to step up, and quit having your header and coordinators teach full loads and get the staffs bigger, especially at the junior high levels In these economic times it isn't going to happen. And it is not going to happen in my lifetime. Maybe that's good. As coaches, we are teachers first. It is unrealistic to expect a 6a coach to teach 5 periods, but not unrealistic to expect them to be a teacher first. The giant successful mega programs sure limit a lot of pretty good ole' kids opportunities.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 9:29:29 GMT -6
Everyone wants to compete until it is time to pony up the money.
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Post by TOBC on Dec 16, 2016 9:45:51 GMT -6
IMO, if they want them to be in the classroom, do it in the 2nd semester. or put them in a credit recovery class for 2-3 periods in the morning.
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Post by xdipster on Dec 16, 2016 10:00:07 GMT -6
Or u tell west side schools to step up, and quit having your header and coordinators teach full loads and get the staffs bigger, especially at the junior high levels In these economic times it isn't going to happen. And it is not going to happen in my lifetime. Maybe that's good. As coaches, we are teachers first. It is unrealistic to expect a 6a coach to teach 5 periods, but not unrealistic to expect them to be a teacher first. The giant successful mega programs sure limit a lot of pretty good ole' kids opportunities. I'm gonna tell you guys, Woody Roof was a heck of a good teacher back in the day. If you are a good coach, you can be a good teacher. Lack of pride in one simply means you don't have much pride in a job that people pay you to do. It is another opportunity to invest in your kids' lives. Now teaching 5 periods is a bit much. At the top levels, all HS in big schools should be in the lifting period IMHO. So you would have 3 opportunities to enrich kids' lives.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 16, 2016 10:15:47 GMT -6
In these economic times it isn't going to happen. And it is not going to happen in my lifetime. Maybe that's good. As coaches, we are teachers first. It is unrealistic to expect a 6a coach to teach 5 periods, but not unrealistic to expect them to be a teacher first. The giant successful mega programs sure limit a lot of pretty good ole' kids opportunities. I'm gonna tell you guys, Woody Roof was a heck of a good teacher back in the day. If you are a good coach, you can be a good teacher. Lack of pride in one simply means you don't have much pride in a job that people pay you to do. It is another opportunity to invest in your kids' lives. Now teaching 5 periods is a bit much. At the top levels, all HS in big schools should be in the lifting period IMHO. So you would have 3 opportunities to enrich kids' lives. Agree. Some of the most rewarding conversations you can have are not just those with former players you had an impact on, but former students that you may have very little in common with. As adults, they realize you worked as hard for them, (those that can't do anything for you) as you worked for your players that determined whether you get hired or fired.
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Dec 16, 2016 10:36:36 GMT -6
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Post by email on Dec 16, 2016 10:36:36 GMT -6
Agree^
But like someone said everyone wants to compete till it's money time
An old coach told me once, in Oklahoma they want a million dollar program and give u a 100 bucks, in Texas they want a million dollar program and actually give it to you
And now I'll tell u a difference in Arkansas and Oklahoma , Texas. Oklahoma and Texas will fire u for losing, Arkansas, not really. You gotta real F up to get fired here
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Post by blitz50 on Dec 16, 2016 10:51:32 GMT -6
Agree^ But like someone said everyone wants to compete till it's money time An old coach told me once, in Oklahoma they want a million dollar program and give u a 100 bucks, in Texas they want a million dollar program and actually give it to you And now I'll tell u a difference in Arkansas and Oklahoma , Texas. Oklahoma and Texas will fire u for losing, Arkansas, not really. You gotta real F up to get fired here Sounds like a good and safe place for you!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 11:26:37 GMT -6
Teaching 4 hours a day isn't bad.. Don't see anything wrong with it no matter what Class of football you play.
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Post by Okie on Dec 16, 2016 11:45:20 GMT -6
Teaching 4 hours a day isn't bad.. Don't see anything wrong with it no matter what Class of football you play. As a HC?
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Post by Hitch on Dec 16, 2016 11:48:33 GMT -6
I teach 4 classes of Physics. It's not bad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 11:48:50 GMT -6
Assistant.
But at the same time, what is wrong with a HC teaching 4 hours a day? Guys do it all over the state.
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Post by Okie on Dec 16, 2016 11:49:19 GMT -6
assistant.....
ok....
i agree
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