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Post by Hitch on Feb 8, 2017 13:43:33 GMT -6
Dip, I know of school districts who have a mandated 'no average below a 50' allowed. Kid can do NOTHING and receive a 50. SERIOUSLY?
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Post by jmstreeter on Feb 8, 2017 13:51:38 GMT -6
Dip, I know of school districts who have a mandated 'no average below a 50' allowed. Kid can do NOTHING and receive a 50. SERIOUSLY? I have been a school district that tried to do that. I didn't adhere to that policy and they ranted and rave to me about why I should do it. I simply said is it fair to do that and you could possibly have a kid who is doing everything possible to pass a class and the best they could do is possibly pull a 60% or maybe just little bit better and this kid who does nothing but deprive the other kids of oxygen or better yet just keeps the desk from floating to the ceiling make the same grade or somewhat close to it. Admin had no answer for that.
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Post by Hitch on Feb 8, 2017 13:56:29 GMT -6
The reasoning I was given was, "If you give them the average they earned, they'll never be able to average to a 70 if they make a 90-100 next semester..........REALLY??? THEN FRIGGIN GIVE SOME EFFORT. Don't understand that mentality at ALL!
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Post by gotemcoach on Feb 8, 2017 14:00:18 GMT -6
Dip, I know of school districts who have a mandated 'no average below a 50' allowed. Kid can do NOTHING and receive a 50. SERIOUSLY? I currently work for one... They make the paperwork to give a grade less than 50 so ridiculous that everyone just gives them a 50
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 9, 2017 9:38:09 GMT -6
I agree with above post Been there done that I don't ageee with 50 But reality is they Prob ain't gonna pass Most grades were each 6 weeks x 2 plus final divide by 7 So that would be 6 x 70 plus 70 and 490 to pass Or 69.5 to pass 486.5 to pass Take 386.5 which is the 2 50's off Divide by 5 kid needs to Ave 77.3 for 2nd 3rd 6 weeks and sem test. Can still pass but will be tough If they make 40 they will need 82's to pass Possible but unlikely Give em a 50 and move on I've seen maybe 10 kids make it in 38 years Not worth agrivation And anyway God gives em air even if they do nothing 50 is nothing to give.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 9, 2017 9:57:48 GMT -6
Dip, I know of school districts who have a mandated 'no average below a 50' allowed. Kid can do NOTHING and receive a 50. SERIOUSLY? 50 is still failing. I need to do that to dangle the carrot. My final is so hard, they can't wait till then to pass, and I can always adjust down if they don't need to pass. But if the light comes on, it might help if they can at least pull of a D to pass. I'd rather have a kid that thinks they have a chance, than one that doesn't. Its the idea behind it. How many kids that you give a 50 to ever bring it up to passing? Few if any I bet. The few finally realize they are messing up big time.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 9, 2017 9:58:27 GMT -6
I agree with above post Been there done that I don't ageee with 50 But reality is they Prob ain't gonna pass Most grades were each 6 weeks x 2 plus final divide by 7 So that would be 6 x 70 plus 70 and 490 to pass Or 69.5 to pass 486.5 to pass Take 386.5 which is the 2 50's off Divide by 5 kid needs to Ave 77.3 for 2nd 3rd 6 weeks and sem test. Can still pass but will be tough If they make 40 they will need 82's to pass Possible but unlikely Give em a 50 and move on I've seen maybe 10 kids make it in 38 years Not worth agrivation And anyway God gives em air even if they do nothing 50 is nothing to give. My point exactly.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 9, 2017 10:22:58 GMT -6
Back in my day we had to walk up hill in the snow both ways to school. Yadayadayada. These kids have things just as rough as we had it, just in different ways. The fact that as many of them can function that do is a small miracle in itself. These kids will have to know more than any generation before them, period. And while we are fighting the good fight, we just haven't had the ability to catch up to these changes to help them like we got when we were their age. I could not agree more. Kids have not changed. The world has changed. I cannot imagine growing up today. These kids did not choose to grow up in this world. It is all they know. I believe today's adults have done a poor job adjusting to our changing world and continuing to teach the important lessons in today's world.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 9, 2017 10:29:42 GMT -6
Back in my day we had to walk up hill in the snow both ways to school. Yadayadayada. These kids have things just as rough as we had it, just in different ways. The fact that as many of them can function that do is a small miracle in itself. These kids will have to know more than any generation before them, period. And while we are fighting the good fight, we just haven't had the ability to catch up to these changes to help them like we got when we were their age. I could not agree more. Kids have not changed. The world has changed. I cannot imagine growing up today. These kids did not choose to grow up in this world. It is all they know. I believe today's adults have done a poor job adjusting to our changing world and continuing to teach the important lessons in today's world. Yup. That sentence kind of throws off the rest of what I said. The rest of it is what you said.
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Post by mrwig on Feb 9, 2017 13:43:00 GMT -6
I agree with above post Been there done that I don't ageee with 50 But reality is they Prob ain't gonna pass Most grades were each 6 weeks x 2 plus final divide by 7 So that would be 6 x 70 plus 70 and 490 to pass Or 69.5 to pass 486.5 to pass Take 386.5 which is the 2 50's off Divide by 5 kid needs to Ave 77.3 for 2nd 3rd 6 weeks and sem test. Can still pass but will be tough If they make 40 they will need 82's to pass Possible but unlikely Give em a 50 and move on I've seen maybe 10 kids make it in 38 years Not worth agrivation And anyway God gives em air even if they do nothing 50 is nothing to give. this needs to be put into the hall of fame for the most organized thought to ever come from the man behind the camera curtain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Hitch on Feb 9, 2017 13:57:48 GMT -6
LOLOL
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 10, 2017 4:43:39 GMT -6
I agree with above post Been there done that I don't ageee with 50 But reality is they Prob ain't gonna pass Most grades were each 6 weeks x 2 plus final divide by 7 So that would be 6 x 70 plus 70 and 490 to pass Or 69.5 to pass 486.5 to pass Take 386.5 which is the 2 50's off Divide by 5 kid needs to Ave 77.3 for 2nd 3rd 6 weeks and sem test. Can still pass but will be tough If they make 40 they will need 82's to pass Possible but unlikely Give em a 50 and move on I've seen maybe 10 kids make it in 38 years Not worth agrivation And anyway God gives em air even if they do nothing 50 is nothing to give. this needs to be put into the hall of fame for the most organized thought to ever come from the man behind the camera curtain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Simple teaching all you nn's can do it Whatever the grading policy is at your place
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Post by Hitch on Feb 13, 2017 11:06:23 GMT -6
I don't have to worry about here. They get what they earn.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 13, 2017 12:36:24 GMT -6
I agree with above post Been there done that I don't ageee with 50 But reality is they Prob ain't gonna pass Most grades were each 6 weeks x 2 plus final divide by 7 So that would be 6 x 70 plus 70 and 490 to pass Or 69.5 to pass 486.5 to pass Take 386.5 which is the 2 50's off Divide by 5 kid needs to Ave 77.3 for 2nd 3rd 6 weeks and sem test. Can still pass but will be tough If they make 40 they will need 82's to pass Possible but unlikely Give em a 50 and move on I've seen maybe 10 kids make it in 38 years Not worth agrivation And anyway God gives em air even if they do nothing 50 is nothing to give. this needs to be put into the hall of fame for the most organized thought to ever come from the man behind the camera curtain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nah I got more you nn's can't read lol Thanks wig appreciate it In reality it's hat people have done for a long time Only pain now is with auto grade books on computer Ya gotta go back and put em in manually Until you get a 70 Many won't round up or kill weeds State does same thing on test scores They draw the line where they want Some years it took 37 right to pass test Some years 32 People think passing on state testing is 70 Lol they have no clue If it was 70 the schools would be over flowing with retention lol Lowest I ever saw it one year was 58% It's a numbers game State controls numbers
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Post by gotemcoach on Feb 13, 2017 13:00:44 GMT -6
Dip, I know of school districts who have a mandated 'no average below a 50' allowed. Kid can do NOTHING and receive a 50. SERIOUSLY? 50 is still failing. I need to do that to dangle the carrot. My final is so hard, they can't wait till then to pass, and I can always adjust down if they don't need to pass. But if the light comes on, it might help if they can at least pull of a D to pass. I'd rather have a kid that thinks they have a chance, than one that doesn't. Its the idea behind it. How many kids that you give a 50 to ever bring it up to passing? Few if any I bet. The few finally realize they are messing up big time. anything below 70 here is failing so even at 50 its a ways to battle back from
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Post by Hitch on Feb 13, 2017 13:56:46 GMT -6
Somebody has to really TRY to fail my class. TRY HARD.
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Post by Hitch on Feb 15, 2017 10:30:45 GMT -6
Update. I have one kid out of 90 trying REAL HARD. That is all.
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Post by bigern809 on Feb 15, 2017 10:31:33 GMT -6
Over half of my 2/3 block is failing. And you have to try real hard to fail mine as well.
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Post by Hitch on Feb 15, 2017 10:38:46 GMT -6
I'm telling kids today that if they are below 70 it's THEIR fault. I've had grades posted, gave them last Friday as a makeup day, and I gave those close to 70 a printed out IPR that has what they're missing. You don't bother to turn crap in after that? FYAFYFH.............
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Post by bigern809 on Feb 15, 2017 10:40:22 GMT -6
Same thing. I'm like whateves....
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