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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:11:01 GMT -6
Now, I can agree with you on that one. This would be a state level issue. Fed should have nothing to do with Public Ed. No one said otherwise. Our state is f'ing up public education all on its own.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 7, 2017 11:11:51 GMT -6
Now, I can agree with you on that one. This would be a state level issue. Fed should have nothing to do with Public Ed. Yes. What I was saying. First post was about that. So we agree.
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Post by blitz50 on Mar 7, 2017 11:12:15 GMT -6
This would be a state level issue. Fed should have nothing to do with Public Ed. No one said otherwise. Our state is f'ing up public education all on its own. I was referring to Dip and his dislike of Trump. Not saying you said anything. I agree the State is Fng it up. But Oklahoma has a history of that.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 7, 2017 11:13:48 GMT -6
Guess situations don't change. I will say this about Russia, Romney was right. Since this happened, they found a huge oil reserve in the Arctic. The $500 billion deal to let Exxon come in and drill it would make Russia an economic force again. The reason they went away from Communism is because they went broke before we did. They are lead by an old school Communist Autocrat, so I don't think democracy will be the route Russia goes if this deal isn't kept in the can. I wrote this while you wrote about Romney. I'm not a head in the sand party only guy. One of the few I have seen in a long time, BTW.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 7, 2017 11:15:21 GMT -6
No one said otherwise. Our state is f'ing up public education all on its own. I was referring to Dip and his dislike of Trump. Not saying you said anything. I agree the State is Fng it up. But Oklahoma has a history of that. Since 2008, we have cut education more than any other state. Over 25% from an underfunded service to begin with. It is still who we vote for.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:17:54 GMT -6
Back to education...I talked to my buddy this weekend that is a state senator. I expressed to him my belief that the only way to fix the funding problem in OK is to go through the courts like KS has done. He totally agreed. Said what the fckrs in OKC say privately about the situation is much different than their public stances. Fact is, THEY DO NOT CARE. Period.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 7, 2017 11:19:08 GMT -6
Back to education...I talked to my buddy this weekend that is a state senator. I expressed to him my belief that the only way to fix the funding problem in OK is to go through the courts like KS has done. He totally agreed. Said what the fckrs in OKC say privately about the situation is much different than their public stances. Fact is, THEY DO NOT CARE. Period. So how do we get that ball rolling? Seriously.
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Post by blitz50 on Mar 7, 2017 11:20:20 GMT -6
Back to education...I talked to my buddy this weekend that is a state senator. I expressed to him my belief that the only way to fix the funding problem in OK is to go through the courts like KS has done. He totally agreed. Said what the fckrs in OKC say privately about the situation is much different than their public stances. Fact is, THEY DO NOT CARE. Period. h3ll no they don't care. And be honest that is both parties. They give lip service about what you want to hear and then do whatever they want. If voter turnout wasn't so low in this state, they may actually pay attention a little.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:20:43 GMT -6
Back to education...I talked to my buddy this weekend that is a state senator. I expressed to him my belief that the only way to fix the funding problem in OK is to go through the courts like KS has done. He totally agreed. Said what the fckrs in OKC say privately about the situation is much different than their public stances. Fact is, THEY DO NOT CARE. Period. So how do we get that ball rolling? Seriously. Haven't gotten that far yet. I am going to visit with him in depth over spring break.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:21:20 GMT -6
Back to education...I talked to my buddy this weekend that is a state senator. I expressed to him my belief that the only way to fix the funding problem in OK is to go through the courts like KS has done. He totally agreed. Said what the fckrs in OKC say privately about the situation is much different than their public stances. Fact is, THEY DO NOT CARE. Period. h3ll no they don't care. And be honest that is both parties. They give lip service about what you want to hear and then do whatever they want. If voter turnout wasn't so low in this state, they may actually pay attention a little. Only one party in OK.
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Post by xdipster on Mar 7, 2017 11:25:56 GMT -6
Back to education...I talked to my buddy this weekend that is a state senator. I expressed to him my belief that the only way to fix the funding problem in OK is to go through the courts like KS has done. He totally agreed. Said what the fckrs in OKC say privately about the situation is much different than their public stances. Fact is, THEY DO NOT CARE. Period. h3ll no they don't care. And be honest that is both parties. They give lip service about what you want to hear and then do whatever they want. If voter turnout wasn't so low in this state, they may actually pay attention a little. Both parties may have had us where we were in 2008. Since then not one state wide office is held by a democrat, the House and Senate have super or near super majorities held by Republicans. Bullcrap has been called on that. Now the voter turn out in our highly gerrymandered state? Its exactly what one of the two parties wants, and I ain't a part of it. But we do get the gov't we deserve. Every time a teacher says that its both parties, "but my guns", any social issue at all, or other bull just doesn't cut it in our state.
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Post by blitz50 on Mar 7, 2017 11:28:41 GMT -6
You can act like Dems really listen and care what you think all you want, but it isn't true. Majority could care less.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:30:07 GMT -6
You can act like Dems really listen and care what you think all you want, but it isn't true. Majority could care less. What dems? There are none in OK. Or VERY, VERY, VERY few.
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Post by blitz50 on Mar 7, 2017 11:34:46 GMT -6
Sure there are and there has been. Still didn't change anything. Even under Henry OK education sucked
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:39:25 GMT -6
Sure there are and there has been. Still didn't change anything. Even under Henry OK education sucked There are a very few who have no power. My buddy got a very reasonable pay raise bill out of committee, but the leadership won't let it be heard on the Senate floor. Henry had a repub legislature for most of his term. Not that I'm taking up for him. I was not a huge fan, but he was 10000x better than mattress Mary.
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Post by blitz50 on Mar 7, 2017 11:42:43 GMT -6
Sure there are and there has been. Still didn't change anything. Even under Henry OK education sucked There are a very few who have no power. My buddy got a very reasonable pay raise bill out of committee, but the leadership won't let it be heard on the Senate floor. Henry had a repub legislature for most of his term. Not that I'm taking up for him. I was not a huge fan, but he was 10000x better than mattress Mary. Problem with teacher pay raise bill, is the money? We don't have any. Need to get a dedicated revenue stream. I am no way a fan of Fallin at all. h3ll I voted for Joe.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Mar 7, 2017 11:49:24 GMT -6
There are a very few who have no power. My buddy got a very reasonable pay raise bill out of committee, but the leadership won't let it be heard on the Senate floor. Henry had a repub legislature for most of his term. Not that I'm taking up for him. I was not a huge fan, but he was 10000x better than mattress Mary. Problem with teacher pay raise bill, is the money? We don't have any. Need to get a dedicated revenue stream. I am no way a fan of Fallin at all. h3ll I voted for Joe. His bill should be heard on the floor. It made it out of committee with votes from both sides. I agree on the money. We need to roll back the freaking tax cuts of the last 6 years. We cannot afford tax cuts. We also can't afford to have the LOWEST production taxes in the country. Oil and natural gas companies have unparalleled benefits for drilling in OK. It's time to roll some of that back. We cannot afford it.
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Post by Okie on Mar 7, 2017 12:10:53 GMT -6
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Post by Burnet44 on Mar 7, 2017 12:19:00 GMT -6
There are 2 parties everywhere Why has Okies elected rino reps? Easy the lib demos scare the dip snit out of everyone All the bs Barry did in office is killing the Dems on every state level Make no mistake the Dems got the rinos elected Rinos know that and feel safe because of fear Of Socialism and all the bs the Dems want Which is equal to the amount of power the rinos think they have
Many states are like this eccept Commufornia and New Yorkistan In the last 2 elections the Dems have lost over a 1000 state Govt seats to reps Rinos are on the same side as libs Just different in name only
The Dems gave us trump and the rinos you elected. Because they are bat snit crazy And regular working people don't want that The rinos moved in and took advantage
Same here in the once great state If texas We got Abbott and Patrick h3ll bent on killing education for their own gain Bottom line is money Vouchers will get a Lot of kids off of the states responsibity to find and Educate. Ask Louisiana Public schools there suck Private schools are ok And the Dems have been running Louisiana for among time until reciently 4th graders don't vote but their parents on welfare and freebies from the govt do
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Post by Okie on Mar 7, 2017 12:23:56 GMT -6
Honest Question.... How much longer can we stay in this business? I love coaching football...but at some point enough is enough. I just don't know when that is. I guess when I figure out what my back up plan is....then I'll get out.
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