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Post by xdipster on Apr 11, 2017 10:46:16 GMT -6
Tweaking something is one thing but over coaching on meet day just so the other coaches, parents, and competitors know you know what your talking about is stupid. I coach throwers and it kills me watching coaches and parents...you change too much on the day of the meet your rhythm will be off and you wont be comfortable which will slow the shot or disc down...like I said small tweaks but that is it...Im sure it is the same with all the other events... Agreed. Might show a thrower the disc is coming out early, or a jumper how they aren't popping their hips are whatever. But redrawing their steps etc etc is crazy.
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 11, 2017 10:46:41 GMT -6
Again, why not implement in other sports? I don't see a difference.. That's on the other sports I guess. No, there has been a push for it, but it clearly states in the UIL handbook that you can't. So is it written differently for track specifically? Like in the COPE training?
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Post by Hitch on Apr 11, 2017 10:51:07 GMT -6
Again, why not implement in other sports? I don't see a difference.. Oklahoma has sideline cameras/video that they can use in between series in football. That's a no-no in Texas still.......
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 11, 2017 10:52:13 GMT -6
Yeah, that's what I'm saying......
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Post by Hitch on Apr 11, 2017 11:09:09 GMT -6
Thank the UIL.........
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Post by xdipster on Apr 11, 2017 11:28:46 GMT -6
We are Federation rules, not UIL.
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 11, 2017 11:39:06 GMT -6
Exactly.
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Post by Hitch on Apr 11, 2017 11:47:30 GMT -6
Blaim the UIL for TEXAS not being unified, across sports, in the use of video/sideline equipment...........
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Post by xdipster on Apr 11, 2017 11:52:40 GMT -6
Like any organization, there is good and bad. I like how Texas football rules are NCAA rules so kids don't have 2 sets of rules if they go to the next level to learn, and refs aren't calling college rules where they don't belong in a high school game.
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 11, 2017 12:36:26 GMT -6
True
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Post by Lebowski on Apr 11, 2017 14:07:03 GMT -6
Rather have UIL...
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Post by Hitch on Apr 11, 2017 18:42:23 GMT -6
Careful what you ask for...........
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Post by fbs on Apr 12, 2017 6:47:47 GMT -6
track coaches are such a stupid culture. all the little trackisms like "run your race", "STREEEEEETCH" and "AAAARRRRRMMMMMSSSS".... then you have the little idiots that run across the infield... then you have the morons that time EVERYTHING even when their kid isn't in the race. Track coaches are every bit as bad as baseball coaches. This is not disputable. If you argue with me then you hate America.
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Post by Lebowski on Apr 12, 2017 7:22:09 GMT -6
track coaches are such a stupid culture. all the little trackisms like "run your race", "STREEEEEETCH" and "AAAARRRRRMMMMMSSSS".... then you have the little idiots that run across the infield... then you have the morons that time EVERYTHING even when their kid isn't in the race. Track coaches are every bit as bad as baseball coaches. This is not disputable. If you argue with me then you hate America. I would agree with this... I am a track coach and I refuse to do the infield relay. On the same note, had a very successful track coach once tell me that he does all of his coaching during the week at practice. During the meet, unless his kids were running. He sat in the infield in his chair. Mind you this guy was a well-respected track coach and had a few rings. Also in the Oklahoma Coaches Hall of Fame.
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Post by HAZAA on Apr 12, 2017 8:09:53 GMT -6
track coaches are such a stupid culture. all the little trackisms like "run your race", "STREEEEEETCH" and "AAAARRRRRMMMMMSSSS".... then you have the little idiots that run across the infield... then you have the morons that time EVERYTHING even when their kid isn't in the race. Track coaches are every bit as bad as baseball coaches. This is not disputable. If you argue with me then you hate America. This guy gets it.
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Post by fbs on Apr 12, 2017 9:01:20 GMT -6
what always cracks me up is that track coaches think (and will argue this to the death) that anyone that doesn't like track (i.e. agree with them) is a sissy or is too easy on kids. These are usually the same guys that try to fill up every single event even if it means putting a fat kid the open quarter, or putting the most unathletic kid you can find in the mile or two mile. I worked with a head track coach that was old as dirt and set in his ways. He'd make every single kid in the track program run a mile before every practice, and a "warm up mile" before every MEET, and this included throwers. After that they got to go through a 45 minute long team warm up every day. Then he'd attempt to fill every heat of every event, which meant putting kids in events they'd never worked on. Then he'd send kids that had never thrown the shot or disc down "because good sprinters make good throwers". I could go on and on about this idiot, but he's won awards for being a good track coach, so that means there are people out there that agree with his ways, which means I think track is stupid. I guarantee you burnet knows this guy too.
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Post by gotemcoach on Apr 12, 2017 9:05:54 GMT -6
Careful what you ask for........... I've had both OSSAA and UIL I'll take UIL all day long
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Post by Burnet44 on Apr 12, 2017 9:05:57 GMT -6
idk again track helps all sports and always keep kids fresh they do better
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Post by fbs on Apr 12, 2017 9:10:18 GMT -6
idk again track helps all sports and always keep kids fresh they do better I don't disagree with any of that... What I do disagree with is when coaches make it about them rather than the kids. guess what happened to the number of throwers I had when they started having to run a mile a day and also before they threw? Kids have better things to do now, which honestly was not the case even 10 years ago. things are changing. if you can't make it worth a kids while, they WILL bail on you.
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Post by xdipster on Apr 12, 2017 9:17:42 GMT -6
what always cracks me up is that track coaches think (and will argue this to the death) that anyone that doesn't like track (i.e. agree with them) is a sissy or is too easy on kids. These are usually the same guys that try to fill up every single event even if it means putting a fat kid the open quarter, or putting the most unathletic kid you can find in the mile or two mile. I worked with a head track coach that was old as dirt and set in his ways. He'd make every single kid in the track program run a mile before every practice, and a "warm up mile" before every MEET, and this included throwers. After that they got to go through a 45 minute long team warm up every day. Then he'd attempt to fill every heat of every event, which meant putting kids in events they'd never worked on. Then he'd send kids that had never thrown the shot or disc down "because good sprinters make good throwers". I could go on and on about this idiot, but he's won awards for being a good track coach, so that means there are people out there that agree with his ways, which means I think track is stupid. I guarantee you burnet knows this guy too. That can be overkill for sure. As somebody that runs off a track meet, I hate coaches that fill in events just to fill them in. Or the coach that punishes a kid at the track meet with the mile. Do that at home, or leave them home next time your kid forgets to throw the shot. 45 minute warm up could be seen as crazy. My kids go through their routine to warm up. But then each group has specific things they have to do before their events. Hurdlers hurdle stretch, high jumpers do bridges, 4x100 is going through handoffs and getting their marks down. Etc, etc,etc. If a kid wants to compete and help their team, they will do these things. The dead weight will be cast away like flotsam.
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