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Post by blitz50 on Jan 9, 2018 9:20:51 GMT -6
Guys looking for some resources for pin/pull concept out of 10 personnel. Thought I would ask here, see if any of yall have some.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 11:58:36 GMT -6
What type of resources you looking for? I know on hogfbchat and txhsfbchat there is the coaches tool chest and a lot of stuff there. I have some experience with 10 personnel pin/pull with pre/post snap RPO stuff with it if you want to chat about it.
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Post by Hitch on Jan 9, 2018 12:01:51 GMT -6
Is pin and pull OKIE speak for buck sweep??
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Post by TOBC on Jan 9, 2018 12:05:05 GMT -6
Is pin and pull OKIE speak for buck sweep?? yes. very few of us still call it buck sweep.
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Post by Hitch on Jan 9, 2018 12:08:58 GMT -6
Well, I've been around a little while. Grew up in the wang tee. ran the wishbone in HS, as well as triple option out of the I. Veer in college, then SDB. Done a little of everything as a HS coach, offensively. Well, defensively also! I've coached both sides of the ball.
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Post by TOBC on Jan 9, 2018 12:10:01 GMT -6
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Post by Hitch on Jan 9, 2018 12:10:22 GMT -6
And, yes, #hogfbchat has a tool box of sorts.
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Post by blitz50 on Jan 9, 2018 12:11:04 GMT -6
Is pin and pull OKIE speak for buck sweep?? yes. very few of us still call it buck sweep. Sort of. It is not exactly like buck sweep. But similar in concept.
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Post by blitz50 on Jan 9, 2018 12:12:41 GMT -6
What type of resources you looking for? I know on hogfbchat and txhsfbchat there is the coaches tool chest and a lot of stuff there. I have some experience with 10 personnel pin/pull with pre/post snap RPO stuff with it if you want to chat about it. Our HC is not a real big fan of pin pull without a TE. I like it cause I will have a young oline next year and I like the angles it creates.
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Post by TOBC on Jan 9, 2018 12:16:46 GMT -6
yes. very few of us still call it buck sweep. Sort of. It is not exactly like buck sweep. But similar in concept. to me, it's the exact same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 13:20:17 GMT -6
Well I think it is pretty much the same but you dont have the dive/trap fake and you don't have as many guys pinning the playside edge but you are still getting couple guys pulling, couple guys blocking back and the ball to a runner going lateral to get flow then cut vertical if possible.
He wants to run pin/pull to the TE only is that what you are saying? We have ran it to open and to tight side and both offer benefits. The biggest thing I would say about doing it out of 10 personnel is the ability for RPO to be more effective. If you are in trips right(to the field) and you run pin/pull to the left (boundary) you are really stressing that ILB to cover #3 so being able to have him in more constraint is easier out of 10. Now being able to run to the TE is great because you can actually get more pullers at times and get more frontside down blocks. You can run nub TE to boundary and open trips to field and get same RPO stress as in 10. You can still use the "steal" calls if they are condensing to a 3 tech and you want to read him for a QB run/replace etc.
I think it is a great concept to run to open or tight side, but I also think just running it with no RPO/QB read game is missing alot of great and easy plays to be had.
Our rules are simple. Block your BS gap, if its clear you pull, unless you are playside EMOL then you are setting edge/pinning the defensive EMOL.
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Post by tonymontana on Jan 9, 2018 13:21:58 GMT -6
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Post by blitz50 on Jan 9, 2018 13:23:20 GMT -6
Well I think it is pretty much the same but you dont have the dive/trap fake and you don't have as many guys pinning the playside edge but you are still getting couple guys pulling, couple guys blocking back and the ball to a runner going lateral to get flow then cut vertical if possible. He wants to run pin/pull to the TE only is that what you are saying? We have ran it to open and to tight side and both offer benefits. The biggest thing I would say about doing it out of 10 personnel is the ability for RPO to be more effective. If you are in trips right(to the field) and you run pin/pull to the left (boundary) you are really stressing that ILB to cover #3 so being able to have him in more constraint is easier out of 10. Now being able to run to the TE is great because you can actually get more pullers at times and get more frontside down blocks. You can run nub TE to boundary and open trips to field and get same RPO stress as in 10. You can still use the "steal" calls if they are condensing to a 3 tech and you want to read him for a QB run/replace etc. I think it is a great concept to run to open or tight side, but I also think just running it with no RPO/QB read game is missing alot of great and easy plays to be had. Our rules are simple. Block your BS gap, if its clear you pull, unless you are playside EMOL then you are setting edge/pinning the defensive EMOL. Cool thanks for the input.
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