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Post by tonymontana on Feb 16, 2018 11:32:47 GMT -6
I'll never agree with dips politics. I despise the left. I also despise the right. I despise the left way more though. I hate the right and left both. All drive. By big money and personal agendas... I hate all. That way I don't have to label those I hate. Makes life easier.
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Post by moxWASmybackup on Feb 16, 2018 11:33:47 GMT -6
I think most solutions to most problems usually fall somewhere in the middle when talking politics. To much liberal and conservative these days.. Not enough common sense, not scents or cents or even since.
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Post by tonymontana on Feb 16, 2018 11:35:22 GMT -6
I think most solutions to most problems usually fall somewhere in the middle when talking politics. To much liberal and conservative these days.. Not enough common sense, not scents or cents or even since. *too
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 16, 2018 11:36:36 GMT -6
Mox I agree. I own an AR-15. I own many more guns too. But seriously what is the purpose of an AR? I believe in the 2nd amendment. It says we have a rift to bare, not bear, arms...it doesn’t say what kind of arms...where do we draw the line of acceptable and reasonable?
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 16, 2018 11:41:03 GMT -6
I will also say the liberals want gun control...I think it’s a little late for that...we also want Congress and the President to fix these local problems...that hasn’t ever and will never work...if people are serious about fixing it then people need to start going to board meetings and asking what their schools plans are to protect their campuses...they also need to ask the schools how they can help...have a coaching friend from Katy that told me once “most people call 911, but I am 911”...to fix these issues it’s going to take a group of people willing to fix it instead on waiting on others to fix it...
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Post by BrennanHuff on Feb 16, 2018 11:46:39 GMT -6
Had to delete him following that post. I know a few other coaches that deleted him as well. Over the line with that bullsh!t Saddened that words hurt so deeply. My condolences. Words do not hurt, it's the ignorance behind the words that are annoying. Rather than be annoyed any longer I simply deleted you. I cannot speak for the others that deleted you today.
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Post by moxWASmybackup on Feb 16, 2018 13:32:24 GMT -6
I will also say the liberals want gun control...I think it’s a little late for that...we also want Congress and the President to fix these local problems...that hasn’t ever and will never work...if people are serious about fixing it then people need to start going to board meetings and asking what their schools plans are to protect their campuses...they also need to ask the schools how they can help...have a coaching friend from Katy that told me once “most people call 911, but I am 911”...to fix these issues it’s going to take a group of people willing to fix it instead on waiting on others to fix it... I agree! Hoss and I talked about this during lunch, while he sucked down his meatloaf, today. Things need to start locally. Do you really expect big sweeping changes at the federal level when it comes to gun control. Locally, however, we can make changes to the way we do things in order to not only help prevent things like this from happening but work to better the society we live in... Equate it to DYJ - Do your job. Start there, not their or they're, and see what happens. Idea that Hoss had heard that I really liked is the idea of hiring vets to work in our schools doubling as things like security/janitor, or something along those lines... Could work on two problems we currently see.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:32:40 GMT -6
I guess dip has me blocked, he asked for facts yesterday and they were given, today I reply and never sink the the name calling aspect, but partake in civil discourse that showed my disdain for the individual who commits these type of atrocities, no matter their race, creed, or color. His logic stated that because I align myself with conservative logic, ideals and politics I should have pity for the POS. Am I wrong by assuming that's what your meme implied? Dip, will you respond? I'm still waiting my TURN for your response. huh? i was hanging medals. whats up?
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:38:39 GMT -6
H3ll the thing that upsets me most about this shooting is that they didn't kill the shooter. Now he gets to go thru a trial, and the families of all the victims have to relive the events of that day. Even worse is the idea that he will have some liberal lawyer who actually thinks he should not be punished because some bs rhetoric like, "Society damaged the boy." I think all lawyers would use any defense they can to get their client off. This young man will burn. Sooner or later. Is this what you were talking about? I believe in rule of law. But good point about the victims family. As Christians, one good thing about the trial process is that allows us time to forgive(not forget, not to let them off) so that our souls are not burdened with hatred or animosity. It allows us time to love one another. Now punishment will have to be carried out, because thats what happens in a civilized society too. By the way, rule of law, judicial processes, and the role of society are all liberal ideals. You are welcome.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:40:35 GMT -6
I don't hate conservatives. On some issues we disagree the proper way to address societal problems. They are entitled so said opinions. I will keep your hatred towards other Americans in my thoughts and prayers.
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 16, 2018 13:44:55 GMT -6
I’m a firm believer in putting in a 30 day rule. If we know without a shadow of a doubt a person murdered someone, as in this case, then they should be punished (executed) with in 30 days. You can give that family of his and the family of the victims forever to heal. Him being alive is hindering that process for the victims families and his own family.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:47:06 GMT -6
I’m a firm believer in putting in a 30 day rule. If we know without a shadow of a doubt a person murdered someone, as in this case, then they should be punished (executed) with in 30 days. You can give that family of his and the family of the victims forever to heal. Him being alive is hindering that process for the victims families and his own family. I'm talking about the victims family. Could care less otherwise. I'd be in favor of the death penalty if it could have a cheaper, stream lined application like you are saying. Appeals make it very expensive, as does the creation of death row.
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Post by fbs on Feb 16, 2018 13:50:35 GMT -6
I don't hate conservatives. On some issues we disagree the proper way to address societal problems. They are entitled so said opinions. I will keep your hatred towards other Americans in my thoughts and prayers. your habit of politicizing things that should not be politicized is what is maddening. eventually those things need to come to the forefront, but jumping on that bandwagon immediately was wrong. that's why you're being attacked, because you don't have enough tact to see that this is a people problem. Did the cowboys blame bows and arrows? nope.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:52:38 GMT -6
I don't hate conservatives. On some issues we disagree the proper way to address societal problems. They are entitled so said opinions. I will keep your hatred towards other Americans in my thoughts and prayers. your habit of politicizing things that should not be politicized is what is maddening. eventually those things need to come to the forefront, but jumping on that bandwagon immediately was wrong. that's why you're being attacked, because you don't have enough tact to see that this is a people problem. Did the cowboys blame bows and arrows? nope. Time for tact is long gone. And Its not a bandwagon anybody wants on. Where have I said anything about banning guns? It is a people problem. We are now getting somewhere.
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 16, 2018 13:54:16 GMT -6
I don't hate conservatives. On some issues we disagree the proper way to address societal problems. They are entitled so said opinions. I will keep your hatred towards other Americans in my thoughts and prayers. your habit of politicizing things that should not be politicized is what is maddening. eventually those things need to come to the forefront, but jumping on that bandwagon immediately was wrong. that's why you're being attacked, because you don't have enough tact to see that this is a people problem. Did the cowboys blame bows and arrows? nope. You are correct sir. I’m a republican myself. I have thought long and hard about it. It’s a people problem, but I’m also starting to think it’s an access problem too. Not sure how to fix it.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:54:44 GMT -6
I truthfully could care less if I'm getting attacked. I will be okay. They will be okay. People dont have to like me for me to be okay. And you will be okay if I don't like or agree with you. I didn't bring it up here by the way. Just answering the detractors. And I value your opinion, especially when its not convenient for me to look at it.
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Post by fbs on Feb 16, 2018 13:55:54 GMT -6
a lack of tact is the exact reason why NOBODY wants to listen to anyone with an opposing view. you'd rather throw tongue in cheek libtard political graphics out there and make some astute observation that wasn't even yours to p!ss people off. you wanna know why nothing gets done? because one way or another some idiot is not interested in fixing a problem, they're most interested in being RIGHT.
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Post by skinny51 on Feb 16, 2018 13:58:08 GMT -6
My wife is a LPC. She works in the private sector. We talked about it today. I think people just need to be intentional and nice to people. If everyone was concerned about those that are at risk. In almost every case these kids that do the shooting are crying for help. Just like it is very rare for someone to commit suicide without crying out for help.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 16, 2018 13:59:12 GMT -6
Does it make someone an idiot to be right now? If being right is wrong, I don't wanna be right. That doesn't even make sense. You are upset because you don't like my opinion that something needs to be done? I didn't say what. I didn't say when. I simply said something more than thoughts and prayers. And you are upset by this? Come on now. I'm pretty sure you are better than that.
I'm not for a gun ban. I said that. So what needs to happen?
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Post by fbs on Feb 16, 2018 14:00:41 GMT -6
your habit of politicizing things that should not be politicized is what is maddening. eventually those things need to come to the forefront, but jumping on that bandwagon immediately was wrong. that's why you're being attacked, because you don't have enough tact to see that this is a people problem. Did the cowboys blame bows and arrows? nope. You are correct sir. I’m a republican myself. I have thought long and hard about it. It’s a people problem, but I’m also starting to think it’s an access problem too. Not sure how to fix it. I'm very similar to you in that respect. I'm also very pro 2nd amendment. I'm now of the opinion, however, that the 2nd amendment doesn't have to be threatened in order to HELP, not fix, but help this problem. The fact that AR15's and any semi automatic rifle is considered a "long rifle", and their primary use is considered hunting is just stupid. Why this matters is that anyone over 18 can purchase them for "hunting". I understand that the gun is not what killed people, the idiot behind it did, but we CAN do things to make insane people less devastating. There really is no reason to own an AR... I have two, and I'd gladly hand them over if it meant making a difference. Don't touch handguns, don't touch rifles and shotguns, but we can live without these types of guns.
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