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Post by givepullorpitch on Oct 18, 2018 14:04:52 GMT -6
Since dip and I are the only progressive moderates on this board. (Most of you call us liberal, although I don’t consider me that.) Do you still support Cruz over Beto? Does the trump name calling followed by the love fest make you scratch your head? If someone insults you and your family to that degree, do you still embrace him? Do the tax cuts that went to the top 1% bother you? Does reducing social security and Medicare to pay for the tax cuts bother you? I want to hear your feedback.
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Post by Burnet44 on Oct 18, 2018 19:10:21 GMT -6
Beto is a socialist democrat Have you actually listened to his ads? One is raises for teachers, teacher retirement and school funding Which are state issues not DC issues And he did nothing about them since he has been in STATE office Another he talks about ambition basically his This guy is about as much of a vato as I am As always liberalism has to hide what it really is Dude is a vanilla Obama
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Post by givepullorpitch on Oct 18, 2018 20:41:31 GMT -6
So you are telling me you are voting for Cruz?
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Post by tcb on Oct 19, 2018 6:12:25 GMT -6
So you are telling me you are voting for Cruz? Since he is "the other guy", I would say yes...that's exactly what they are saying. Personally, I'm still on the fence, but leaning towards Cruz, as well.
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Post by Hoss on Oct 19, 2018 6:32:31 GMT -6
yes cruz, and stud summed it up well. I will also give Tap +1 for his retort...God forgive me.
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Post by newcoach on Oct 19, 2018 8:36:07 GMT -6
Ill answer like this, keep in mind I am an independent.
Ted Cruz is a pu$$ and I dont like him. He cowers to the real men and does nothing of value to me.
Beto sounds like a real human until you begin to hear his policies, then you realize he is an idiot.
Both men have changed their names to fit their audience so thats a wash to me.
Beto saying he would ban guns in Texas......seriously at least lie about that til you make it to washington you moron. Beto saying he wants to up healthcare is a no no for me. Lets also look at his state record, its awful.
At first I thought about voting for Beto but after hearing his positions I said no way. Teddie is closer to what I want even though I think he is a b!tch
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Post by dieselfitter on Oct 19, 2018 10:04:20 GMT -6
Not a Cruz fan, have never really been, however the Beto dude is a slap. The robo calls and text messages he sent drove me crazy...I finally had to get all white trash Seiling Oklahoma on them and say some bad words to finally get them to leave me the f alone. Can't stand Beto's commercial where the lighting makes him look "browner" I actually laugh when I see it...dude, your last name is O'Rourke...for fooks sake, you're 1/124923ths step away from being full blown ginger...
That being said, I'll vote for Cruz because, A. he's a republican and I know the devil we have, B. he's not a democrap, C. See A & B
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Post by Burnet44 on Oct 19, 2018 14:13:22 GMT -6
Socialist democrat
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Post by xdipster on Oct 22, 2018 8:57:07 GMT -6
All of you guys are socialist democrats if you take a check from the government, or have.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 22, 2018 9:18:24 GMT -6
not true, Dip. Interesting thought though.
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Post by Hoss on Oct 22, 2018 10:03:35 GMT -6
All of you guys are socialist democrats if you take a check from the government, or have. So when i get MY money back on MY tax refund, I am socialist? Interesting...
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Post by Burnet44 on Oct 22, 2018 10:22:56 GMT -6
he is talking about your pay from taxes
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Post by Hoss on Oct 22, 2018 10:27:41 GMT -6
Compensation for the work i put in to help that agency function. To me, that is not socialism.
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Post by TOBC on Oct 22, 2018 10:28:52 GMT -6
beto is the next "johnny come lately".
to me, he's just like obama. an empty suit that can get the base riled up. like every other politician he's in it for HIMSELF. nobody else.
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Post by Burnet44 on Oct 22, 2018 10:40:52 GMT -6
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Post by Hands11 on Oct 22, 2018 10:43:43 GMT -6
beto is the next "johnny come lately". to me, he's just like obama. an empty suit that can get the base riled up. like every other politician he's in it for HIMSELF. nobody else.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 22, 2018 12:16:30 GMT -6
Compensation for the work i put in to help that agency function. To me, that is not socialism. Gov't funded education, gov't created job, gov't standards set
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Post by Hitch on Oct 22, 2018 12:38:04 GMT -6
You are trolling so hard.
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Post by Burnet44 on Oct 22, 2018 12:57:12 GMT -6
Some are mentioning the Irish guy as a possible Presidential candidate in the future All ready putting the narrative out there Lying errrr laying the foundation Page 5 from the Obama DNC playbook
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Post by xdipster on Oct 23, 2018 7:44:59 GMT -6
You are trolling so hard. spreading the truth isn't trolling. If somebody wants to gaslight the term socialism, I just want to point out their hypocrisy since they work for the govt themselves. We have a mixed economy, like every economy in the world. Its mostly capitalistic, which is the best feature an economy can have for innovation and competition. Regulations are needed to protect consumers and workers. By the way, the so called socialist Obama only changed our economy by .43% more gov't control than before he took office. It is still regarded as basically between 90-93% a capitalist country. But lets say somebody pushed for a more cradle to the grave coverage approach, without paying for 6 weeks vacation and a few other crazy ideas. Single payer health care costs less than our system now, so that is actually the more fiscally conservative approach. A self paid for pension like SS and Medicare doesn't cost the govt anything except administrative costs. All you have to pay for more is education(college or vocational training for all that earn it), and an increase in unemployment benefits but an end to food stamps so its a wash. Socialistic democracy is what we have. Now I will say this. We spend on things we don't need to, usually redundantly, and neither side ever says no to spending so they can stay in office. We need pragmatic solutions that cost less, without the bs labeling that some love so much. In short, the sarcasm is the trolling part, but the facts are the facts.
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