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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 14, 2020 10:40:31 GMT -6
Yes, old timer here. I was on the track advisory committee for years doing this time. Girls had 16 events and boys 16. Girls ran 4x200 and boys pole vaulted. When girl’s PV was added they kept girls 4x200 making girls w 17 events, boys w 16. I advocated for years, do away with girls 4x200 or add it to the boys. When we added 4x200 to boys in Oklahoma, with double relay points it shifted team successes more to sprinter teams and less mid distance and good field event teams. At times I think a good way to make things a bit more interesting is to stop giving double points for relays. A lot of coaches see it as the rules were all fine for the powers that be when they had good relays across the board, but now that some big time programs might lack sprinters, they are against it. I have heard this when talking about Weatherford, for example. One of the better programs in the state. They won this past year by having dominant middle distance and field events. And I guarantee you Seifried does not like the 4x200 at all still. Now a lot of guys old and young agree with him. That's because he and others don't think it should be done unless done in the olympics. I still like double point relays. It emphasises team. A former athlete of mine, who is a very successful coach today told me, "Coach, I could always run faster with a baton in my hand because others were depending on me." |
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Post by Lebowski on Feb 17, 2020 8:48:53 GMT -6
Make it where coaches can coach their kids in the state running events. (Be on the infield)
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 17, 2020 9:06:12 GMT -6
Make it where coaches can coach their kids in the state running events. (Be on the infield) I see your point, but I like the unclutter of the state meet. If you have done a good job coach during the year, they can handle it. Our invitationals are chaos, and that is ok. Focus on the kids at state. Just my opinion. |
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Post by xdipster on Feb 18, 2020 9:37:28 GMT -6
Make it where coaches can coach their kids in the state running events. (Be on the infield) have heard a few coaches with a pretty good plan that doesn't clutter the meet. Now this can only be for races of over 200 m, but all state meets are at football stadiums. Allow one coach per team to go to the player box on the sideline opposite of the finish line. If it is ever allowed, I think this would be the only way. I do agree with GPP though. The kids are ready by state. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 18, 2020 9:45:19 GMT -6
This was our proposal with field events years ago. All coaches used to be required to be in the stands. We tried to make a dedicated coaches box near the athletes about 15-20 years ago..
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Post by xdipster on Feb 18, 2020 12:56:44 GMT -6
Yes. And field events are the only ones that you really get to coach at the state level today. Can even video from the box and the kids can come watch their attempts.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 18, 2020 13:50:23 GMT -6
Yes. And field events are the only ones that you really get to coach at the state level today. Can even video from the box and the kids can come watch their attempts. Yes, we spent hours over whether to watch video or not. Our discussions were pretty irrelevant because what came out of National federation is what stood. Except double relay points. |
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