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Post by bolt92 on May 18, 2022 9:11:53 GMT -6
So by my count,at least 3 kids in north Texas had eligibility denied simply because of sour grapes by the district that was losing the kids. Their districts decided to check PAPF boxes to come after kids, which, by the way, is a real testament to the "real" motives of those coaches and the districts as well(#despicableatbest)! 2 of Texas's top kids in the 2024 class are moving to Oklahoma with another one form the class of 2023 looking across the border, but may end up at a TAPPS school instead. All 3 made legitimate moves into the Texas districts in which they were trying to gain eligibility. Too much power is given by the UIL into the hands of coaches and administrators that are supposed to have the kid's best interest in mind, but seldom do. Then after they check those boxes, the UIL sides with the sending school 90% of the time. Very poor management in my opinion. However, without their incompetence, we wouldn't be where we are at so good riddance to bad rubbish. Carry on!
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Post by ThedamGOAT on May 18, 2022 9:19:24 GMT -6
Hope I can benefit
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Post by Hitch on May 18, 2022 10:29:15 GMT -6
Real shady deal...
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Post by bolt92 on May 18, 2022 11:05:54 GMT -6
When I was at Dibble, we had an OSSAA hearing for a kid that was going to be a 5th year senior, but was under the age requirement and had extenuating circumstances where he was having to care for his dying 1 legged diabetic grandmother and so he missed too many day at a previous school when he was a Freshman to receive credit. I thought our AD handled this when he got to Dibble as a repeat Freshman, however, I argued the case for him and made what I felt was a pretty convincing argument to the point that the OSSAA board wanted to kick it back to David Jackson for re-evaluation. Jackson denied and urged the board to vote. We lost like 13-2 or something like that. During my argument, I had a superintendent ask me if what if this kid after getting an "extra" year of eligibility moves to another school district. He wondered if I would be arguing so hard if he wasn't going to be my player. I turned to Washington's superintendent and said if this kid moved to our arch rival Washington to play for Coach Beller, I might be a small part of me that a little upset as we were taking that butt kicking from Washington as that kid was our returning starting QB and our only proven offensive weapon at that point, but the vast majority of me would be proud that the kid had the opportunity to play anywhere after enduring what he had to endure those last couple of months with his grandmother. In what I thought was a "Perry Mason" moment, I said that I would be happy for him because I have what is best for that kid in mind and that is exactly what each one of you should keep in mind when you make you decision today. Turns out my powers of persuasion aren't that great, lol!
The reason I bring this up is because when the decision if left up to a group of people that have a vested interest in the outcome, it is extremely hard for that group to make an unbiased decision regardless of what is best for the kid. The process the UIL uses is extremely flawed!
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Post by givepullorpitch on May 21, 2022 22:10:22 GMT -6
We are all in the kid business. 50+ years ago, a Texas kid had to sit a year even with a parent bona fide move. OSSAA was only Lee K. Anderson or Leo Higby and the answer was usually no. There was a more level playing field in those days. Many schools had a chance because talent wasn’t monopolize by the haves at the expense of the have nots. Many of today’s more liberal rulings, (and court proceedings) on eligibility are good for kids, but bad for parity of the game. Same with NCAA and NIL.
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Post by bolt92 on May 23, 2022 8:03:42 GMT -6
I know that is the way it used to be, but I really truly believe that the American dream is allowing us to put our kids in a place to be better than ourselves. I think the parent should have the right to move their kid to a place where they have the best opportunity to succeed. I know in Frederick in the 1990's we had an amazing run of homegrown talent, but with that early success, we started to get people flocking to southwest Oklahoma in search of being a part of something special. I think that it is not the place of the UIL or the OSSAA to tell a parent that makes a bona fide move that they don't have the right to help their kid's situation. I also feel that most of the time they are looking for a reason to say "no" when they should be looking for a reason to say "yes". I think it is the same with our justice system. People are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but we are constantly putting people in prison and calling it justice when there is overwhelming doubt thrown on a situation. Too many circumstantial cases are providing guilty verdicts that are ruining some people's lives. Is that justice? I feel the UIL and OSSAA are doing this same thing, but on a much smaller scale obviously.
Do you think to some extent that the NIL has a chance to create some "parity" in college football? I know it won't happen on a large scale, but here are some interesting things to think about. Kids that aren't hurting as bad for that NFL payday may stay around longer and boost their draft stock and in turn help out their university. Going to a football factory could become less important than going somewhere where you are going to get developed. I find it very interesting how bent out of shape Alabama, who has dominated the college landscape for the last 15 years, became about Texas A&M "outbidding" them for players. I know USC has some boosters that can really put their money where their mouth is and maybe that may sway recruiting? I know right now it is the wild, wild west, but I can't help but think that it has the opportunity to be a good thing? Just my humble opinion on both topics.
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Post by givepullorpitch on May 23, 2022 11:13:00 GMT -6
Disagree on most of your thoughts. NIL will only make the rich get richer. Can’t blame a parent of a high schooler to want what is best for their kid. I just hate it for the kids, coaches, and schools left behind with no chance for success.
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Post by bolt92 on May 23, 2022 13:27:01 GMT -6
First out, I applaud the fact that you disagree with me, but didn't come on here calling me an idiot or anything! Free, uncensored speech/thought is good for dialogue in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you'll ever see North Texas in the College Football Playoff hunt. NIL won't change that. I do think there are certain areas of the country that could give certain schools a punchers chance of breaking through that College Football Playoff ceiling on a consistent basis, places like Oregon, USC, Florida, Texas A&M.
I feel bad for those kids that get left behind and I've had my share of kids leave me as a coach and they leave me the team behind. I try to just control what I can control and coach the ones that are there. At some of those places, redefining success is important.
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