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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 11, 2024 9:31:19 GMT -6
I'm not disagreeing with you, or anyone else on this side of the matter. I just want a solution, rather than to keep beating my chest and screaming at the top of my lungs.
The BEST option is that spoken of by TOBC. Play it as it lies, then come postseason split them into schools that can control their enrollment and schools that can't.
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Post by Hitch on Apr 11, 2024 9:35:51 GMT -6
Nice golf reference, Wetsu! Well played sir.
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Post by jbfootball on Apr 11, 2024 12:27:42 GMT -6
I'm not disagreeing with you, or anyone else on this side of the matter. I just want a solution, rather than to keep beating my chest and screaming at the top of my lungs. The BEST option is that spoken of by TOBC. Play it as it lies, then come postseason split them into schools that can control their enrollment and schools that can't. I also think this is the best option if it can be executed. Playing devil’s advocate, what if a team decides not play them? Or they play but sit their best players because it doesn’t matter if you beat the private school or not. Everyone is playing for 2nd in the district so what then? |
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Post by almichaels on Apr 11, 2024 14:32:14 GMT -6
What will the OSSAA do if they tell everyone to redistrict again, and the OFBCA just refuses to do it because that was already done last summer and schedules are set for 2 year cycles?
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Post by givepullorpitch on Apr 11, 2024 20:44:31 GMT -6
The revenue streams should be traceable and powerlifting has managed to operate quite nicely outside of the long-arm of the OSSAA for years. If Texas can manage, so can Oklahoma. It's definitely time for the tail to stop wagging the dog imo. Texas’ UIL is under the purview of the Texas state legislature. Do you really want our nutjob representatives in HS athletics? |
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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 12, 2024 8:57:40 GMT -6
I'm not disagreeing with you, or anyone else on this side of the matter. I just want a solution, rather than to keep beating my chest and screaming at the top of my lungs. The BEST option is that spoken of by TOBC. Play it as it lies, then come postseason split them into schools that can control their enrollment and schools that can't. I also think this is the best option if it can be executed. Playing devil’s advocate, what if a team decides not play them? Or they play but sit their best players because it doesn’t matter if you beat the private school or not. Everyone is playing for 2nd in the district so what then? As a public school, you're still playing to win the district. Standings will be determined after removing the private from the district. If you choose to rest players vs. the private school, that's your choice. But you're still playing for district standing as a whole. It would be similar to playing a non-district game during week 8...do with it what you will. |
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Post by TOBC on Apr 15, 2024 8:27:06 GMT -6
There’s a meeting in Blanchard at 9:00 Monday morning. They’ll discuss and form a plan to present to the OSSAA. They are going to first go at the OSSAA with the proposal to remove the private schools when playoffs hit. This issue was voted on and approved by 83% of public schools and the OSSAA did nothing with it. They say if OSSAA rejects it again, they will explore a new association. All coaches/supes are invited. if anyone hears how this meeting goes, post it up. |
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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 15, 2024 8:57:53 GMT -6
Meeting is not happening.
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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 15, 2024 8:59:11 GMT -6
Administrators (some) will attend the OSSAA board meeting on Wednesday.
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Post by jbfootball on Apr 15, 2024 9:17:52 GMT -6
Meeting is not happening. What does this mean? Did admin shut down the meeting or are they waiting until after the board meeting to try and come up with a new plan to present to the OSSAA? |
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Post by washeduphasbeen on Apr 15, 2024 9:34:48 GMT -6
It kind of sounds like what has happened in the past. This is not something new, back in the day we also complained about the advantages the private schools had that we did not share. There was talk about not playing them anymore, couldn't get enough on board, then the talk to changed to not playing any privates in non-district, couldn't get enough on board for that one either. It was also discussed to leave the OSSAA and start a new organization, that one had no chance from the beginning. I don't know what the answer is anymore.
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Post by TOBC on Apr 15, 2024 9:40:42 GMT -6
so long as private school people are running things at the ossaa, and our politicians aren't heavy private school people, nothing will change. ever.
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Post by Lebowski on Apr 15, 2024 11:38:29 GMT -6
Everyone go Independent in Football.
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Post by TonyMontana on Apr 17, 2024 9:23:17 GMT -6
I've done some soul searching and I think I've come down to the root of my disdain of private schools. My problem is with the "Christian/Catholic" school. Almost all of them to get a job there or go to school there you already have to be a believer and follower of Christ. I believe it flies in the face of what Jesus was all about. These schools are about sheltering rich kids from poor kids and sheltering "Christian" kids from possible "non-Christian kids. I went to Life Church on Easter and Pastor Craig referenced a passage and it's stuck with me.
Luke 15:7 "In the same way, there will be a glorious celebration in heaven over the rescue of one lost sinner who repents, comes back home, and returns to the fold- more so than for all the righteous people who never strayed away."
These schools aren't spreading the gospel. They are simple gatekeepers of the gospel and in doing so missing the mark of expanding the Kingdom of Heaven. Ok I'm finished with my rant.
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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 17, 2024 9:27:44 GMT -6
To be fair, they will shelter poor kids if they are fast enough.
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Post by TOBC on Apr 17, 2024 9:34:28 GMT -6
To be fair, they will shelter poor kids if they are fast enough. hahahahahahahahahahaha.........excellent point. |
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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 17, 2024 11:04:41 GMT -6
Any updates from the meeting? I'm still hearing October ADM's to be used.
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Post by TOBC on Apr 17, 2024 11:13:02 GMT -6
from what i've heard they are sending out proposals.
have only received 1 so far, still waiting on the others.
Proposal 1: Use last summer ADM. PC West and McGuiness flip classification, and Glenpool and Nathan Hale flip classification. Unsure about anything below that.
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Post by TOBC on Apr 17, 2024 11:31:59 GMT -6
Proposal 2:
Using October ADM. They don't have those numbers yet, but should soon.
This proposal was accepted by the board.
There is going to be a revolt from the 2A and 3A public schools. Could be a bunch of forfeited games this year.
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Post by TonyMontana on Apr 17, 2024 12:00:26 GMT -6
This doesn't affect 2a much. They're almost all back in 3a. So 3a will eat this sh!t sandwich for now on. Nothing will change. 2a and 4a are happy now so I would doubt a "meeting" ever happens. Hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
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