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Post by almichaels on Apr 17, 2024 13:04:08 GMT -6
This doesn't affect 2a much. They're almost all back in 3a. So 3a will eat this sh!t sandwich for now on. Nothing will change. 2a and 4a are happy now so I would doubt a "meeting" ever happens. Hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am. I suspect that you are right. There are basically only 24 or so football schools that are affected. So, the OSSAA is basically sacrificing those 3a schools to keep the majority happy.
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Post by jbfootball on Apr 17, 2024 14:22:24 GMT -6
Proposal 2: Using October ADM. They don't have those numbers yet, but should soon. This proposal was accepted by the board. There is going to be a revolt from the 2A and 3A public schools. Could be a bunch of forfeited games this year. Do you think coaches would really forfeit games over this? I understand they’re upset, but that means seniors get less games and possibly losing senior night, etc. It seems like it would be robbing the kids at their school when it isn’t even their fault.
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Post by blitz50 on Apr 18, 2024 7:54:20 GMT -6
I have heard that some will forfeit, which will be crazy But I also heard a great idea that might not solve all the problems but would put pressure on the privates.
1. Do not schedule them for any non district games. 2. Don't let them into your track meets, baseball or basketball tournaments. 3. Don't attend their track meets, baseball, or basketball tournaments.
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Post by almichaels on Apr 18, 2024 8:00:09 GMT -6
I have heard that some will forfeit, which will be crazy But I also heard a great idea that might not solve all the problems but would put pressure on the privates. 1. Do not schedule them for any non district games. 2. Don't let them into your track meets, baseball or basketball tournaments. 3. Don't attend their track meets, baseball, or basketball tournaments. THIS!!!
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Post by preventdefense23 on Apr 18, 2024 8:42:51 GMT -6
Proposal 2: Using October ADM. They don't have those numbers yet, but should soon. This proposal was accepted by the board. There is going to be a revolt from the 2A and 3A public schools. Could be a bunch of forfeited games this year. Do you think coaches would really forfeit games over this? I understand they’re upset, but that means seniors get less games and possibly losing senior night, etc. It seems like it would be robbing the kids at their school when it isn’t even their fault. A 3A east coach suggested that his board has/will approve him to forfeit any district games against private schools. This was mentioned at the gathering that didn't take place in Blanchard on Monday. He also stated that if this kept his squad out of the playoffs due to OSSAA rule, he would pursue some sort of post season through other organizations like the OFBCA.
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Post by blitz50 on Apr 18, 2024 9:13:56 GMT -6
I thought in 3A especially they should put all the privates in 1 district.
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Post by WetsuWarrior on Apr 18, 2024 9:23:38 GMT -6
Was it Harper, Berryhill? If not...irrelevant.
There isn't another 3A public school out east that will REALISTICALLY have a shot at doing anything post-Thanksgiving. It's awful easy for Locust Grove to forfeit vs Metro, what do they care?! But for someone who legitimately has a shot to play in December, I'm afraid this won't be a viable option. And if they don't stand 100% together, the line breaks and the effort fails.
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Post by TOBC on Apr 18, 2024 9:29:47 GMT -6
Proposal 2: Using October ADM. They don't have those numbers yet, but should soon. This proposal was accepted by the board. There is going to be a revolt from the 2A and 3A public schools. Could be a bunch of forfeited games this year. Do you think coaches would really forfeit games over this? I understand they’re upset, but that means seniors get less games and possibly losing senior night, etc. It seems like it would be robbing the kids at their school when it isn’t even their fault. I think some will. But unless, like wetsu said, some break the line, all that will happen is those guys won’t go to the playoffs if they have a chance. If they have a legit shot, and they forfeit, the parents may make sure those guys don’t have jobs the next year.
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Post by jbfootball on Apr 18, 2024 10:06:21 GMT -6
Last year saw 2 publics in the semifinals in 3A and both of those games were one possession games. For Sulphur, Marlow, Berryhill they cannot afford to forfeit games and risk missing the playoffs. They have teams capable of winning. It would be sad to see them forfeit and not give their seniors a chance at a playoff run.
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Post by gator on Apr 18, 2024 10:33:18 GMT -6
Have October numbers been release anywhere?
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Post by Lebowski on Apr 18, 2024 10:33:49 GMT -6
No
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Post by almichaels on May 8, 2024 21:10:27 GMT -6
There was a meeting today among the 3A football schools. I think there is a decent possibility that at least those 27 schools are going to form a united front in dealing with the private schhols.
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Post by TonyMontana on May 9, 2024 7:56:44 GMT -6
There was a meeting today among the 3A football schools. I think there is a decent possibility that at least those 27 schools are going to form a united front in dealing with the private schhols. Heard this as well. Hope we stick together and get this done. I have my doubts. Beyond time to stand up for our public school students.
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Post by WetsuWarrior on May 9, 2024 8:21:06 GMT -6
Hope it's 100% unified.
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Post by jbfootball on May 9, 2024 8:43:06 GMT -6
There was a meeting today among the 3A football schools. I think there is a decent possibility that at least those 27 schools are going to form a united front in dealing with the private schhols. Heard this as well. Hope we stick together and get this done. I have my doubts. Beyond time to stand up for our public school students. Is there enough time before the season to get something done? If not the only way to unite seems to be to not play them.
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Post by TonyMontana on May 9, 2024 8:48:04 GMT -6
Heard this as well. Hope we stick together and get this done. I have my doubts. Beyond time to stand up for our public school students. Is there enough time before the season to get something done? If not the only way to unite seems to be to not play them. Believe that's the idea. Fill blanks in schedule with other teams not playing a private that week. If done correctly privates won't have a 3a schedule.
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Post by jbfootball on May 9, 2024 10:13:46 GMT -6
Is there enough time before the season to get something done? If not the only way to unite seems to be to not play them. Believe that's the idea. Fill blanks in schedule with other teams not playing a private that week. If done correctly privates won't have a 3a schedule. And then play in their own playoff if OSSAA enforces the forfeit rule?
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Post by WestSideWarrior on May 9, 2024 10:23:55 GMT -6
Any big name programs among those 27? or any names really. Curious if it'll be anyone big enough to get support.
Also, like he said above, whats the plan if the OSSAA says none of them are eligible for the playoffs? Could be a lot of upset parents of seniors to deal with, thats always been the thing keeping it from getting to that point. No one wants to risk their job over angry parents and board members.
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Post by TonyMontana on May 9, 2024 10:30:28 GMT -6
Believe that's the idea. Fill blanks in schedule with other teams not playing a private that week. If done correctly privates won't have a 3a schedule. And then play in their own playoff if OSSAA enforces the forfeit rule? I think if the schools defy the OSSAA in not playing the privates might as well make their own playoff.
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Post by almichaels on May 9, 2024 11:00:10 GMT -6
Any big name programs among those 27? or any names really. Curious if it'll be anyone big enough to get support. Also, like he said above, whats the plan if the OSSAA says none of them are eligible for the playoffs? Could be a lot of upset parents of seniors to deal with, thats always been the thing keeping it from getting to that point. No one wants to risk their job over angry parents and board members. My understanding is that all of the 3A football schools were invited to attend. I dont think any of the 5 private schools attended and 24 or 25 of the public schools were there.
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