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Post by Hands11 on Apr 21, 2016 9:37:22 GMT -6
But cheerleading is not a sport!
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Post by TOBC on Apr 21, 2016 9:38:16 GMT -6
But cheerleading is not a sport! BOOM.
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Post by xdipster on Apr 21, 2016 9:40:09 GMT -6
Would any of you be OK with one of your athletes playing another sport during your season? That's what she's asking to do. I don't blame the thump thump coach at all. Nope. Track shape and baseball are not the same. If a kid I know has a chance of getting and/or placing at state, why would I risk him hurting his ankle sliding into 2nd to just run bases. A guy I coached with and was a baseball coach was doing this. I won the argument and he stopped using his kid in baseball. Wrestling and basketball can't happen. Scheduling and the shape needed for wrestling is completely different, as is mentality.
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Post by Hands11 on Apr 21, 2016 9:40:59 GMT -6
Every small school I've ever seen OR coached at has cheerleaders who cheer and play basketball. She plays her game, goes in the locker room changes into her cheer outfit and goes back out on the court! What's the big deal???
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Post by TOBC on Apr 21, 2016 9:42:48 GMT -6
Would any of you be OK with one of your athletes playing another sport during your season? That's what she's asking to do. I don't blame the thump thump coach at all. Nope. Track shape and baseball are not the same. If a kid I know has a chance of getting and/or placing at state, why would I risk him hurting his ankle sliding into 2nd to just run bases. A guy I coached with and was a baseball coach was doing this. I won the argument and he stopped using his kid in baseball. Wrestling and basketball can't happen. Scheduling and the shape needed for wrestling is completely different, as is mentality. that's mixing oil and water. cheer/basketball is workable. track/soccer is workable because i'm doing it right now. some sports just can't share athletes.
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Post by Hands11 on Apr 21, 2016 9:44:54 GMT -6
Yes great point. It depends on what 2. Cheer can work with anything, as well as, track. We are doing it with baseball and soccer right now as well. As track coaches we just have to understand what their "first sport" is. I know that if I have a baseball player out there and he's got a game I'm not getting him. Oh well. I'd rather do that then fight what that coach is going to have to!!
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Post by xdipster on Apr 21, 2016 9:45:13 GMT -6
Yup. And good point on the cheerleading isn't a sport. In those places, it makes it easier. Some schools, even small schools, have cheer during the athletic period and take it very serious. I have a feeling the bball coach just wants to lay down the law and force some dedication.
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Post by Lebowski on Apr 21, 2016 9:45:17 GMT -6
Every small school I've ever seen OR coached at has cheerleaders who cheer and play basketball. She plays her game, goes in the locker room changes into her cheer outfit and goes back out on the court! What's the big deal??? Do it where I am at. See what happens when you have those Baseball only mental bastages? Anti Football Commies
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Post by kennywayne9 on Apr 21, 2016 9:45:46 GMT -6
But cheerleading is not a sport! Tell that to the OSSAA. Cheerleading is one of their biggest money makers. If I'm the thump thump coach, I would not want my player practicing TWICE a day (cheer and thump/thump). This only increases the chance of injury. I would want my athletes fully on board, not splitting their efforts between two teams.
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Post by Lebowski on Apr 21, 2016 9:46:14 GMT -6
Yup. And good point on the cheerleading isn't a sport. In those places, it makes it easier. Some schools, even small schools, have cheer during the athletic period and take it very serious. I have a feeling the bball coach just wants to lay down the law and force some dedication. Bball Coach is a Douche
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Post by TOBC on Apr 21, 2016 9:47:04 GMT -6
we work it out to where i get the sprinters first. i try to get them worked out and gone in about 45 minutes. the soccer coach uses the first 45 minutes of his practice to do conditioning that the sprinters are getting with me. once they get done with me, they go to him and finish up practice. easy money.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Apr 21, 2016 9:47:28 GMT -6
Yup. And good point on the cheerleading isn't a sport. In those places, it makes it easier. Some schools, even small schools, have cheer during the athletic period and take it very serious. I have a feeling the bball coach just wants to lay down the law and force some dedication. Bball Coach is a Douche He can be a douche and still be correct.
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Post by xdipster on Apr 21, 2016 9:47:59 GMT -6
This post
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 21, 2016 9:51:37 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with Girl playing a game then going to cheer during the boys game. That is the issue here. In our district, volleyball games are played Tuesday and Saturday due to small school issues of the majority of players being cheerleaders.
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Post by Hands11 on Apr 21, 2016 9:54:50 GMT -6
In my opinion, at the small school level, not only do you have to pick and choose your battles, but every kid needs to be able to participate in these things if they are good enough to do so regardless of when that season is. Is it the girl's fault that the seasons are the same?? If my daughter was good enough to do both then I would let her. You aren't going to get hurt standing under a basketball goal clapping your hands and waving at the crowd.
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 21, 2016 9:55:00 GMT -6
And a place I was at previously, (we made it to Regional Finals in softball) I had girls that were competing in softball, track, and golf. My ss played in a play off game, her folks drove her to Austin to compete in the whatever long running event she did, and brought her back after for the last game of the series. It just depends on if you're in it for the kids and not your own agenda. We know how freaking crazy the spring can be.
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Post by bigern809 on Apr 21, 2016 9:55:33 GMT -6
In my opinion, at the small school level, not only do you have to pick and choose your battles, but every kid needs to be able to participate in these things if they are good enough to do so regardless of when that season is. Is it the girl's fault that the seasons are the same?? If my daughter was good enough to do both then I would let her. You aren't going to get hurt standing under a basketball goal clapping your hands and waving at the crowd. Fist bump
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Post by kennywayne9 on Apr 21, 2016 9:59:27 GMT -6
In my opinion, at the small school level, not only do you have to pick and choose your battles, but every kid needs to be able to participate in these things if they are good enough to do so regardless of when that season is. Is it the girl's fault that the seasons are the same?? If my daughter was good enough to do both then I would let her. You aren't going to get hurt standing under a basketball goal clapping your hands and waving at the crowd. That's what you think cheerleading is? It is one of the MOST injury prone sports/activities. My wife coached it for over 10 years. Cheerleading today is not what we remember from HS.
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Post by Hands11 on Apr 21, 2016 10:04:04 GMT -6
In my opinion, at the small school level, not only do you have to pick and choose your battles, but every kid needs to be able to participate in these things if they are good enough to do so regardless of when that season is. Is it the girl's fault that the seasons are the same?? If my daughter was good enough to do both then I would let her. You aren't going to get hurt standing under a basketball goal clapping your hands and waving at the crowd. That's what you think cheerleading is? It is one of the MOST injury prone sports/activities. My wife coached it for over 10 years. Cheerleading today is not what we remember from HS. I'm not talking about competitive cheerleading. I'm talking about cheering at a basketball game on a Tuesday night. Do they really do that much??
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Post by kennywayne9 on Apr 21, 2016 10:10:36 GMT -6
That's what you think cheerleading is? It is one of the MOST injury prone sports/activities. My wife coached it for over 10 years. Cheerleading today is not what we remember from HS. I'm not talking about competitive cheerleading. I'm talking about cheering at a basketball game on a Tuesday night. Do they really do that much?? Now that's possible that it is just cheering at the game, however most schools compete in cheer these days. Practice would be my biggest fear. They do a shat-ton of tumbling and such at practice. It's a blown ACL waiting to happen. I would be VERY concerned of this as the thump thump coach. That would be my issue.
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