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Post by email on May 10, 2016 21:09:07 GMT -6
Good article in American football monthly about this.
So how do you guys deal / coach with these types of athletes?
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Post by tcb on May 11, 2016 5:34:35 GMT -6
They usually want attention, so I completely ignore them. We reward the unselfish and the hard workers. We also have some things we do within our program that stomps this type of stuff out (by the team themselves). Most prima donnas that I've had have either straightened up or quit....either way, the team was better off.
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Post by Burnet44 on May 11, 2016 7:09:23 GMT -6
they need you more than you need them
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 7:10:13 GMT -6
You have to have more than talent. You need heart and a desire to be great. Not just good.
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Post by email on May 11, 2016 7:23:34 GMT -6
True In the article "bad" prima donnas are labeled cancers
"Good" 4.5-4.7 that can play are "rough around the edges"
I think the good can be cancerous as well
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Post by Burnet44 on May 11, 2016 7:25:21 GMT -6
T. O.
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Post by email on May 11, 2016 7:27:08 GMT -6
Still don't really care for him, hard worker, but the other stuff, geez
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Post by Burnet44 on May 11, 2016 7:28:34 GMT -6
cant win with him talented but a coach killer
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 7:34:01 GMT -6
1- really good players make me a really good coach 2- sometimes really good players have big egos 3- sometimes coaches have really big egos and can't handle a kid with one 4- Does a kid with an ego deserve less of the coach's effort and attention? 5- Does the "prima donna" show up every day? Does he work hard? Is he a competitor? 6- IMO, you don't have to be much of a coach to work with the kid who is a solid player, humble, competitive, does his job, and doesn't require much from you, other that getting him to the game. Who can't coach that guy? 7- One of the biggest challenges of our profession is 'coaching them all'. You can't shove them all in a box and make them into little robots that you want them to be. You have to figure out how to get many different types of testosterone ridden adolescent young men to work within the confines of a program, but at the same time we have to figure out how to coach and how to motivate all those different types of kids.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 7:41:26 GMT -6
Prima Donnas are the worst no matter how good they are. They become locker room lawyers for the rest.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 8:24:45 GMT -6
Disagree. But that's ok.
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Post by Hitch on May 11, 2016 8:28:08 GMT -6
1- really good players make me a really good coach 2- sometimes really good players have big egos 3- sometimes coaches have really big egos and can't handle a kid with one 4- Does a kid with an ego deserve less of the coach's effort and attention? 5- Does the "prima donna" show up every day? Does he work hard? Is he a competitor? 6- IMO, you don't have to be much of a coach to work with the kid who is a solid player, humble, competitive, does his job, and doesn't require much from you, other that getting him to the game. Who can't coach that guy? 7- One of the biggest challenges of our profession is 'coaching them all'. You can't shove them all in a box and make them into little robots that you want them to be. You have to figure out how to get many different types of testosterone ridden adolescent young men to work within the confines of a program, but at the same time we have to figure out how to coach and how to motivate all those different types of kids. Great post!
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Post by fbs on May 11, 2016 8:59:43 GMT -6
some cancers score a lot of touchdowns.
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Post by skinny51 on May 11, 2016 9:03:03 GMT -6
Punch them and shake them enough....they will conform...
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Post by gotemcoach on May 11, 2016 9:05:10 GMT -6
Does your talent/ dedication match the crap I have to deal with.... That's the question I ask myself when dealing with these kids
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Post by tcb on May 11, 2016 9:46:52 GMT -6
1- really good players make me a really good coach 2- sometimes really good players have big egos 3- sometimes coaches have really big egos and can't handle a kid with one 4- Does a kid with an ego deserve less of the coach's effort and attention? 5- Does the "prima donna" show up every day? Does he work hard? Is he a competitor? 6- IMO, you don't have to be much of a coach to work with the kid who is a solid player, humble, competitive, does his job, and doesn't require much from you, other that getting him to the game. Who can't coach that guy? 7- One of the biggest challenges of our profession is 'coaching them all'. You can't shove them all in a box and make them into little robots that you want them to be. You have to figure out how to get many different types of testosterone ridden adolescent young men to work within the confines of a program, but at the same time we have to figure out how to coach and how to motivate all those different types of kids. 1-- I agree 2 -- true 3 -- true 4 -- depends on his work ethic and attitude, some kids do not deserve as much effort and attention 5 -- good questions, I would also ask "does he have a good attitude?" If he fits all these, he is not a "prima donna", and the argument is moot 6 -- very true, and these are the types of players who we need to focus our time and energy on. We are building men first, football players second, IMO. 7 -- HS sports are a privilege, not a right. I don't have to "coach them all", cancers can go to another school for all I care.
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Post by Hands11 on May 11, 2016 9:52:32 GMT -6
Good article in American football monthly about this. So how do you guys deal / coach with these types of athletes? To me it depends on how good this prima donna is! If he is the difference of me going from 6-5 to 10-1 then I will put up with a lot more, but not at the expense of the entire team! If he shows up to practice everyday and works, and I got to fight with giving him attention or wait a couple extra seconds for him to make sure his socks are pulled up the way he wants then I can live with that!
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Post by email on May 11, 2016 9:55:57 GMT -6
1- really good players make me a really good coach 2- sometimes really good players have big egos 3- sometimes coaches have really big egos and can't handle a kid with one 4- Does a kid with an ego deserve less of the coach's effort and attention? 5- Does the "prima donna" show up every day? Does he work hard? Is he a competitor? 6- IMO, you don't have to be much of a coach to work with the kid who is a solid player, humble, competitive, does his job, and doesn't require much from you, other that getting him to the game. Who can't coach that guy? 7- One of the biggest challenges of our profession is 'coaching them all'. You can't shove them all in a box and make them into little robots that you want them to be. You have to figure out how to get many different types of testosterone ridden adolescent young men to work within the confines of a program, but at the same time we have to figure out how to coach and how to motivate all those different types of kids. To me that's not a prima Donna Prima to me is someone that Doesn't show up on time Doesn't work in Talks and thinks rules don't apply to him Because he is a GOOD athlete. A talented kid that does what he is suppose to, is not a prima Donna , that's a hard working kid that we all like to coach
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Post by skinny51 on May 11, 2016 9:56:45 GMT -6
The Jimmy Johnson "Football Life" talks about this...he cut a dude for sleeping in a meeting immediately but said if it had been Troy he would of simply just woke him up...I am a team guy and all for that but we also dont know what some of these kids go home too...it is easier to get rid of them if they dont fit your mold than to actually coach them and teach them how to be men that can control that urge...I do agree however there are cancers that must go but I think alot of coaches label kids cancers and get rid of them for their convenience...
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Post by Hands11 on May 11, 2016 9:57:18 GMT -6
Then all of our definitions of a prima donna differ from yours! What you are saying just sounds to me like the kid is a turd.
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