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Post by email on May 11, 2016 9:59:21 GMT -6
Good article in American football monthly about this. So how do you guys deal / coach with these types of athletes? To me it depends on how good this prima donna is! If he is the difference of me going from 6-5 to 10-1 then I will put up with a lot more, but not at the expense of the entire team! If he shows up to practice everyday and works, and I got to fight with giving him attention or wait a couple extra seconds for him to make sure his socks are pulled up the way he wants then I can live with that! Your last point to me is just being a pretty boy, fresh air guy, you know a wide receiver type, like you were hands, oops, did I say that out loud !? Lol Just messing, but yes I agree with yo post |
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Post by email on May 11, 2016 10:00:45 GMT -6
Well you are right
A turd
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Post by Hands11 on May 11, 2016 10:03:10 GMT -6
I've never heard of a turd being a prima donna.
Terrel Owens, Chad Johnson, Deion Sanders! Those are guys that are labeled prima donnas. Those guys came to practice everyday and proved it on the field. They ran their mouths and paid fines. I don't think you can call guys that if they don't come to practice, right?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 10:03:54 GMT -6
Good article in American football monthly about this. So how do you guys deal / coach with these types of athletes? To me it depends on how good this prima donna is! If he is the difference of me going from 6-5 to 10-1 then I will put up with a lot more, but not at the expense of the entire team! If he shows up to practice everyday and works, and I got to fight with giving him attention or wait a couple extra seconds for him to make sure his socks are pulled up the way he wants then I can live with that! Effin eh Cotton ... Effin eh! |
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Post by xdipster on May 11, 2016 10:07:41 GMT -6
I've never heard of a turd being a prima donna. Terrel Owens, Chad Johnson, Deion Sanders! Those are guys that are labeled prima donnas. Those guys came to practice everyday and proved it on the field. They ran their mouths and paid fines. I don't think you can call guys that if they don't come to practice, right? I can't call a kid that doesn't come to practice anything. He isn't there to coach. Those are the kids I cut. Its our jobs to mold these kids into young men of character. As long as they are coming to practice and not running off others, it allows me to do that job. So I agree with you. |
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Post by skinny51 on May 11, 2016 10:08:02 GMT -6
I've never heard of a turd being a prima donna. Terrel Owens, Chad Johnson, Deion Sanders! Those are guys that are labeled prima donnas. Those guys came to practice everyday and proved it on the field. They ran their mouths and paid fines. I don't think you can call guys that if they don't come to practice, right? To me those are all prima donna's...First two were turd too...now Deion is different to me because he was a huge team guy... |
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Post by Hands11 on May 11, 2016 10:09:34 GMT -6
I've never heard of a turd being a prima donna. Terrel Owens, Chad Johnson, Deion Sanders! Those are guys that are labeled prima donnas. Those guys came to practice everyday and proved it on the field. They ran their mouths and paid fines. I don't think you can call guys that if they don't come to practice, right? I can't call a kid that doesn't come to practice anything. He isn't there to coach. Those are the kids I cut. Its our jobs to mold these kids into young men of character. As long as they are coming to practice and not running off others, it allows me to do that job. So I agree with you. EXACTLY!! I can even put up with a total turd as long as he is there everyday. Skinny, Terrel Owens was a turd but NO ONE EVER outworked that dude! |
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Post by skinny51 on May 11, 2016 10:10:54 GMT -6
True but he caused issues in the locker room and was a distraction for his team...TO is one of the few players is truly despise...
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Post by skinny51 on May 11, 2016 10:11:27 GMT -6
TO had great work ethic...shoot he was working out in his drive way doing interviews at one point...lol
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Post by xdipster on May 11, 2016 10:13:44 GMT -6
Going back to what I think Skinny said that I agree with, we should treat kids fairly and not equally. We should take into account all factors when dishing out punishment or awards for the outcomes we get from them. A kid gets caught toking it up. Does he live in a place where that is accepted behavior? If so, I might suspend him a game or two less than the kid that absolutely knows that isn't acceptable. My own kids know better than most of the kids I coach. They are held to a higher standard because of this.
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Post by Hands11 on May 11, 2016 10:15:22 GMT -6
Going back to what I think Skinny said that I agree with, we should treat kids fairly and not equally. We should take into account all factors when dishing out punishment or awards for the outcomes we get from them. A kid gets caught toking it up. Does he live in a place where that is accepted behavior? If so, I might suspend him a game or two less than the kid that absolutely knows that isn't acceptable. My own kids know better than most of the kids I coach. They are held to a higher standard because of this.  |
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Post by fbs on May 11, 2016 10:35:00 GMT -6
the simplest way to solve this is simply answering the question: "Is he talented?" or better said, "is his talent worth the headache?" I've been around a lot of coaches who can't understand why their team isn't successful and it's because he ran everyone that could play off because they wouldn't do things "his way". Go ahead and run all your good kids off, you're next.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 10:51:30 GMT -6
the simplest way to solve this is simply answering the question: "Is he talented?" or better said, "is his talent worth the headache?" I've been around a lot of coaches who can't understand why their team isn't successful and it's because he ran everyone that could play off because they wouldn't do things "his way". Go ahead and run all your good kids off, you're next. Outfreaking standing post. |
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Post by fbs on May 11, 2016 10:54:42 GMT -6
athankya.
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Post by tcb on May 11, 2016 12:59:45 GMT -6
the simplest way to solve this is simply answering the question: "Is he talented?" or better said, "is his talent worth the headache?" I've been around a lot of coaches who can't understand why their team isn't successful and it's because he ran everyone that could play off because they wouldn't do things "his way". Go ahead and run all your good kids off, you're next. If "everyone" doesn't want to do things "my way" (which isn't a bad way, I just want them acting right and teaching them how to be a positive contributor to society), then I won't coach there....period. Because, if everyone is a turd at that school, I definitely don't want to raise my boys there. |
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Post by fbs on May 11, 2016 13:02:55 GMT -6
I understand where you're coming from. I'm not talking about all out turds all over the place. I'm talking about the guy who would rather run a kid off that's a little defiant or rough around the edges than try to get on some common ground with him. I've seen differencemakers run off a team because of butting heads with a stubborn coach that wouldn't lay off the kid. if he's an athlete you should feel ok with putting up with a little bit of crap.
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Post by tcb on May 11, 2016 13:08:35 GMT -6
I understand where you're coming from. I'm not talking about all out turds all over the place. I'm talking about the guy who would rather run a kid off that's a little defiant or rough around the edges than try to get on some common ground with him. I've seen differencemakers run off a team because of butting heads with a stubborn coach that wouldn't lay off the kid. if he's an athlete you should feel ok with putting up with a little bit of crap. Agree. Each and every kid is different, and I tend to treat them this way. I am not a "one and done" guy. But, a kid who bucks the system over and over is the one I'm referring to. And honestly, if a "difference maker" is constantly putting himself over the team, we will move on without him. |
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Post by 72blue on May 11, 2016 13:16:46 GMT -6
I am just glad this wasn't titled "pre-madonna" I saw a coach on a message board one time use that phrase to convey "prima donna". LOL.
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Post by Lebowski on May 11, 2016 13:21:49 GMT -6
I am just glad this wasn't title "pre-madonna" I saw a coach on a message board one time use that phrase to convey "prima donna". LOL. LOL |
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Post by fbs on May 11, 2016 13:26:29 GMT -6
yeah... it's what someone is right before they become madonna. read a book for cryin out loud.
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