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Post by xdipster on Oct 18, 2016 13:16:46 GMT -6
I hate how kids won't commit to anything and they quit all the time. My daughter has set goals to go and place at state this year in shot and disc. Has worked her tail off all summer and since school started. After one day of basketball, she says she hates it and wants to concentrate on her goals of shot and disc. Problems with this: 1. She started something. I know its one practice, but doesn't that still count? 2. Her HC is our Principal, my boss. I know I"m an A-hole, but I'm basically trying to get a gauge on whether or not I am an A-hole on this deal too.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 18, 2016 13:33:34 GMT -6
Great question, Dip. My daughter played hoops in jr. hi, coaches wanted her to play in HS, but she didn't want to do so. She never did start HS hoops, so we let her go straight volleyball. I encouraged her to run track as well, but she plays club ball during the spring, so that's a tough double....
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Post by Hitch on Oct 18, 2016 13:34:14 GMT -6
Sounds like you have yourself a conundrum of sorts. Are you gonna be liberal or conservative on this issue?
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Post by Hitch on Oct 18, 2016 13:34:53 GMT -6
Methinks I would have a sit down with her and then the Principal. Just my .02.....
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Post by givepullorpitch on Oct 18, 2016 13:36:19 GMT -6
All three of you have a pow wow. Daughter, coach and you. Explain it to everyone exactly the way you did for us. Ask coach if he really wants a player whose heart isn't in it. Ask daughter if she is sure she doesn't want to play ball, or is it something else? Ask everyone to be honest with themselves.
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Post by Burnet44 on Oct 18, 2016 19:01:28 GMT -6
easy answer she plays 1. she went out 2. the running keeps her legs strong 3. running keeps wt off or at a level you want 4. she will be in competition with others any competition is good 5. she will travel get homework done just like in track season 6. all eggs in one basket is bad idea 7. work ethic 8. learn to be coached by different kinds of coaches 9. competition makes you tough mentality 10. when you are tired will you give it up or get it done
mine ran xc for 6 years 5 of them I made her Sr. year she wanted to I told her she didnt have to she is a thrower like yours played vb bb ran track and xc and pl at fh at 6 am working then after school working then home to work some more repeat daily for 6 years she won dist all 6 years not only was she ok She was tough mentality and wouldnt let the others win She would pull it out sometimes just because of the 6am xc the work she put in and being a competitor Plus she told me in 7th grade after she won dist They wont beat me i WORK HARDER THAN THEM and they wont take it from me
she sucked as expected at xc DL and DAL every year in hs it kept her wt good and kept her in the 165's for pl kept her legs in shape and she competed with herself broke 16 her sr year I have never been more proud of her She never won or even got close but she did something she sucked at to make her better in something she was good at
first day at UNT they ran a mile she beats everyone and coach says Ill take you and cut the rest
IMHO she needs to play for the work competition body movement and development
this carries over to this day she only knows get your arse up go to work solve problems and be the best employee, leader, person you can and not be a burden on others
I didnt say this cuz she is mine a lot of kids do this its the true value of athletics
Basically tell her bb will help her throwing I guess and when she is older taking care of herself
this and 5 bucks will buy a cup of coffee at starbucks
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Post by mrwig on Oct 19, 2016 6:24:17 GMT -6
I say make her play. sometimes in life you have to do things you don't want to do. like when I had to stay in the land of owls. i didn't want to be there after year one but my wife loved her job and nobody would hire me. hahahahaha. SUCK IT UP SISTER!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bigern809 on Oct 19, 2016 7:32:29 GMT -6
What grade is she in?
I say stick it out. Not only because it's the "right thing to do", but because of all the other advantages. It keeps her competitive spirit energized, it's a great workout (especially to keep her legs in shape). Think about off-season.... There is no reason she can't continue to throw and get better for shot/disc during bball season.
Sometimes life lessons really suck, but are worth it.....
Food for thought. Good luck.
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Post by blitz50 on Oct 19, 2016 7:35:05 GMT -6
Man that is tough. My thing is she started, now you got to finish. My big question is why does she not want to play now? She went out, so what happened to make you hate it all of a sudden after one practice?
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Post by bigern809 on Oct 19, 2016 7:39:53 GMT -6
I was wondering the same....
New coach? Dynamic of the girls?
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Post by Hitch on Oct 19, 2016 8:48:28 GMT -6
easy answer she plays 1. she went out 2. the running keeps her legs strong 3. running keeps wt off or at a level you want 4. she will be in competition with others any competition is good 5. she will travel get homework done just like in track season 6. all eggs in one basket is bad idea 7. work ethic 8. learn to be coached by different kinds of coaches 9. competition makes you tough mentality 10. when you are tired will you give it up or get it done mine ran xc for 6 years 5 of them I made her Sr. year she wanted to I told her she didnt have to she is a thrower like yours played vb bb ran track and xc and pl at fh at 6 am working then after school working then home to work some more repeat daily for 6 years she won dist all 6 years not only was she ok She was tough mentality and wouldnt let the others win She would pull it out sometimes just because of the 6am xc the work she put in and being a competitor Plus she told me in 7th grade after she won dist They wont beat me i WORK HARDER THAN THEM and they wont take it from me she sucked as expected at xc DL and DAL every year in hs it kept her wt good and kept her in the 165's for pl kept her legs in shape and she competed with herself broke 16 her sr year I have never been more proud of her She never won or even got close but she did something she sucked at to make her better in something she was good at first day at UNT they ran a mile she beats everyone and coach says Ill take you and cut the rest IMHO she needs to play for the work competition body movement and development this carries over to this day she only knows get your arse up go to work solve problems and be the best employee, leader, person you can and not be a burden on others I didnt say this cuz she is mine a lot of kids do this its the true value of athletics Basically tell her bb will help her throwing I guess and when she is older taking care of herself this and 5 bucks will buy a cup of coffee at starbucks dam GOOD POST
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Post by xdipster on Oct 19, 2016 8:56:18 GMT -6
I was wondering the same.... New coach? Dynamic of the girls? New coach that absolutely loves her basketball IQ. Some of her friends didn't go out, some did. I told her she has to finish it. Wasn't as bad yesterday. No need for pow wow due to me being firm on the stick it out rule we have always had. She is a sophomore. And I want her to keep playing for all the same reasons listed. Thanks for input.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 19, 2016 9:14:00 GMT -6
I knew you had conservative roots. God bless you.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 19, 2016 9:46:49 GMT -6
Gray roots.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Oct 19, 2016 9:55:58 GMT -6
Hopefully she will like it and grow from it. In my old age my philosophy has changed a bit. I want every kid to be as passionate about my program as I am. The harsh reality is many are not. I don't want that person in my organization if they don't want to be there.
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Post by bigern809 on Oct 19, 2016 10:01:11 GMT -6
Agreed. A few schools I have been at have had the 2 week "try it out" rule. I still don't know if I'm a fan of it, but I see its merits.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 19, 2016 10:39:25 GMT -6
The thing that I see today, that has gotten worse, is the mindset that its ok to quit. I get that if your heart isn't in it, it isn't in it. Why go out in the first place? The first time you quit, its hard. Very hard. But like anything, once the seal is broken, you know how to do it now. It gets easier and easier. Then one day many years from now, your marriage or job isn't working out the way you thought it would. So you quit on that. Or you learn to sabotage either so that you get fired or your spouse is forced into the situation of ending it(that is for those that are pros at quitting). We are the last place that pushes kids to grow up to be the kind of adult that works through every option possible when things are hard.
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Post by xdipster on Oct 19, 2016 10:40:19 GMT -6
whoops, looks like you hit the "r" key by mistake... Gray oots doesn't even make sense. You are so gray.
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Post by bigern809 on Oct 19, 2016 11:34:34 GMT -6
The thing that I see today, that has gotten worse, is the mindset that its ok to quit. I get that if your heart isn't in it, it isn't in it. Why go out in the first place? The first time you quit, its hard. Very hard. But like anything, once the seal is broken, you know how to do it now. It gets easier and easier. Then one day many years from now, your marriage or job isn't working out the way you thought it would. So you quit on that. Or you learn to sabotage either so that you get fired or your spouse is forced into the situation of ending it(that is for those that are pros at quitting). We are the last place that pushes kids to grow up to be the kind of adult that works through every option possible when things are hard. Completely agreed! I like to live with "whether you think you can or can't, you will". Mindset.
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Post by Hitch on Oct 25, 2016 11:09:59 GMT -6
Troof
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