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Post by TOBC on Nov 10, 2016 13:22:49 GMT -6
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Post by xdipster on Nov 10, 2016 13:53:02 GMT -6
I love the complete disconnect. People rally for a guy from a party that says government is broken, then can't understand that politicians from that party makes sure government is broken. FML
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 11, 2016 7:31:45 GMT -6
I love the complete disconnect. People rally for a guy from a party that says government is broken, then can't understand that politicians from that party makes sure government is broken. FML Difference in National and State politics. I'm smart enough to talk to and listen to OK (D)s and see that in 75% of other states they'd actually be (R)s. He!! I work with one that's a (D) state senator. In OK our state (R)s A LOT of times are falling off the cliff to the right. I'm more middle/right myself so if I were to run for office in this state I would align more with our state (D)s. The problems with national (D)s for me is they too often are falling off the cliff to the left. I'm not a FREE STUFF FOR EVERYONE type guy! But I do see that there are instances that government in needed to help our citizens. Trump won this election because something in his message got to working white men...which are normally (D)s in other states. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2016 7:48:06 GMT -6
I love the complete disconnect. People rally for a guy from a party that says government is broken, then can't understand that politicians from that party makes sure government is broken. FML Difference in National and State politics. I'm smart enough to talk to and listen to OK (D)s and see that in 75% of other states they'd actually be (R)s. He!! I work with one that's a (D) state senator. In OK our state (R)s A LOT of times are falling off the cliff to the right. I'm more middle/right myself so if I were to run for office in this state I would align more with our state (D)s. The problems with national (D)s for me is they too often are falling off the cliff to the left. I'm not a FREE STUFF FOR EVERYONE type guy! But I do see that there are instances that government in needed to help our citizens. Trump won this election because something in his message got to working white men...which are normally (D)s in other states. Agree. However Okies ultra right mantra that forces them to vote against there own best interest amazes me. Question: Are stupid people poor or are poor people stupid? Rich people didn't get that way by being stupid. |
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 11, 2016 8:22:55 GMT -6
Difference in National and State politics. I'm smart enough to talk to and listen to OK (D)s and see that in 75% of other states they'd actually be (R)s. He!! I work with one that's a (D) state senator. In OK our state (R)s A LOT of times are falling off the cliff to the right. I'm more middle/right myself so if I were to run for office in this state I would align more with our state (D)s. The problems with national (D)s for me is they too often are falling off the cliff to the left. I'm not a FREE STUFF FOR EVERYONE type guy! But I do see that there are instances that government in needed to help our citizens. Trump won this election because something in his message got to working white men...which are normally (D)s in other states. Agree. However Okies ultra right mantra that forces them to vote against there own best interest amazes me. Question: Are stupid people poor or are poor people stupid? Rich people didn't get that way by being stupid. I don't even think it's stupidity. I know smart rich people that their children go to public schools that voted for an anti-public school guy here. Why? Apathy. They don't see it affecting their daily life so they don't care. Now there are certainly some stupid people around as well(Lebowski)  |
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 11, 2016 8:37:09 GMT -6
As unfortunate as it is I don't see us as teachers getting anything done until we all sick out a few days next semester. Admin. will have to be on board for it to work. We will have to hurt the kids to get the parents to actually do something. There is already a movement up here to do this. Rally didn't work...state question didn't work...have to do something drastic to MAKE people listen. If they blame us so be it, what have we lost if they do?  |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2016 9:02:01 GMT -6
As unfortunate as it is I don't see us as teachers getting anything done until we all sick out a few days next semester. Admin. will have to be on board for it to work. We will have to hurt the kids to get the parents to actually do something. There is already a movement up here to do this. Rally didn't work...state question didn't work...have to do something drastic to MAKE people listen. If they blame us so be it, what have we lost if they do? I don't necessarily disagree with you at all. I am surprised I didn't have mass call in sick Wednesday after the election. Without a doubt rattling some cages must occur, but we need to think tactically not knee jerking. Solutions? |
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 11, 2016 9:09:50 GMT -6
As unfortunate as it is I don't see us as teachers getting anything done until we all sick out a few days next semester. Admin. will have to be on board for it to work. We will have to hurt the kids to get the parents to actually do something. There is already a movement up here to do this. Rally didn't work...state question didn't work...have to do something drastic to MAKE people listen. If they blame us so be it, what have we lost if they do? I don't necessarily disagree with you at all. I am surprised I didn't have mass call in sick Wednesday after the election. Without a doubt rattling some cages must occur, but we need to think tactically not knee jerking. Solutions? Like I said I know there is going to be a planned movement with solutions presented to the legislature. I don't know these myself though. But could probably find out. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2016 9:14:17 GMT -6
I don't necessarily disagree with you at all. I am surprised I didn't have mass call in sick Wednesday after the election. Without a doubt rattling some cages must occur, but we need to think tactically not knee jerking. Solutions? Like I said I know there is going to be a planned movement with solutions presented to the legislature. I don't know these myself though. But could probably find out. The advantage you have is your guy is in your school system. He is a breath of fresh air, but for the most part candidates with an educational platform got hammered Tuesday. We sent even more yahoos back with the same narrow ideology. |
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 11, 2016 9:19:50 GMT -6
Like I said I know there is going to be a planned movement with solutions presented to the legislature. I don't know these myself though. But could probably find out. The advantage you have is your guy is in your school system. He is a breath of fresh air, but for the most part candidates with an educational platform got hammered Tuesday. We sent even more yahoos back with the same narrow ideology. No doubt. That was the most disappointing part of Tuesday night for teachers....and most didn't even realize it!! The guy here wants this to be a state-wide initiative. Just trying to get it organized. He wants OEA to support it but fears they don't have the spine for it. |
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Post by Hands11 on Nov 11, 2016 10:01:40 GMT -6
YES SHE IS!!! But guess what, the people of Oklahoma reelected her!!!!!!!!!!!!! By a friggin land slide!!!! FIND THE R, CHECK THE BOX!!! PIZZES ME OFF SO BAD!! |
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Post by Lebowski on Nov 11, 2016 10:07:01 GMT -6
Adolf Hitler could win Governor in Oklahoma all he needs is the -R- by his name.
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Post by TOBC on Nov 11, 2016 10:15:57 GMT -6
YES SHE IS!!! But guess what, the people of Oklahoma reelected her!!!!!!!!!!!!! By a friggin land slide!!!! FIND THE R, CHECK THE BOX!!! PIZZES ME OFF SO BAD!! i voted for the dem guy last time. unfortunately we are stuck with her until 2018. unless by some miracle trump picks her to be some kind of low level dirtbag secretary in his administration. |
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Post by Hands11 on Nov 11, 2016 10:18:12 GMT -6
That's what I'm hoping for!!
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Post by TOBC on Nov 11, 2016 10:19:29 GMT -6
which would then give us todd lamb. who is just as bad as she is.
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Post by xdipster on Nov 11, 2016 10:22:56 GMT -6
Adolf Hitler could win Governor in Oklahoma all he needs is the -R- by his name. I hope you aren't proud of this fact. |
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Post by Lebowski on Nov 11, 2016 10:34:55 GMT -6
I am not.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 11, 2016 11:30:36 GMT -6
which would then give us todd lamb. who is just as bad as she is. Wrong! Worse!!!! |
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Post by xdipster on Nov 11, 2016 11:33:45 GMT -6
which would then give us todd lamb. who is just as bad as she is. Wrong! Worse!!!! Agreed. |
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Post by tonymontana on Nov 11, 2016 11:55:07 GMT -6
which would then give us todd lamb. who is just as bad as she is. Wrong! Worse!!!! What??? But he stood on a football field and said the word prayer!!!! Do you hate football and prayer???!!! |
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