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Post by blitz50 on Dec 13, 2016 8:51:57 GMT -6
This big topic is fixing to get going on how we should reclass. Any of you Okies have any suggestions.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 13, 2016 9:00:23 GMT -6
Don't split 6a in half like Oklahoma. In trying to allow someone beside the big two win a state championship, you now have made the bottom 6a div 1 jobs terrible. Look at the openings Norman, Yukon, Edmond North. And you have a three time 6a div 2 champion that may not have been capable of even hosting a playoff game if they even got in the playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 9:22:07 GMT -6
I don't necessarily have a problem with taking the 16 largest in their own class... Where our issue begins is with 6a-2. I think 6a-2 is a joke with only 16 schools. Those guys complained about having a chance to compete, so they got their own class... Okay. But, why should they get that AND only have to win 3 games to win a state title? Pretty watered down in my opinion.
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Post by xdipster on Dec 13, 2016 9:32:14 GMT -6
I don't necessarily have a problem with taking the 16 largest in their own class... Where our issue begins is with 6a-2. I think 6a-2 is a joke with only 16 schools. Those guys complained about having a chance to compete, so they got their own class... Okay. But, why should they get that AND only have to win 3 games to win a state title? Pretty watered down in my opinion. This is pretty good stuff. And if you take up the top 16 in the next classes and so on, you have a pretty interesting system. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 9:40:14 GMT -6
That's my proposal.. largest 16 are 7a, increase 6a-2 to 32 schools and become 6a... which in turn will bump other schools.. etc.
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Post by jmstreeter on Dec 13, 2016 9:43:32 GMT -6
Don't split 6a in half like Oklahoma. In trying to allow someone beside the big two win a state championship, you now have made the bottom 6a div 1 jobs terrible. Look at the openings Norman, Yukon, Edmond North. And you have a three time 6a div 2 champion that may not have been capable of even hosting a playoff game if they even got in the playoffs. The coaches complained about it and the gold ball still resides on the East side of the state in both 6A 1 & 6A 2. |
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Post by blitz50 on Dec 13, 2016 9:45:21 GMT -6
Not a big fan of jumping up 16 from 5A to join 6-A2. I am all for it going back to 32 in 6A. Or I would be in favor of the Texas model with classes having a Div. 1 and Div. 2 when playoffs start.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 9:49:29 GMT -6
Not a big fan of jumping up 16 from 5A to join 6-A2. I am all for it going back to 32 in 6A. Or I would be in favor of the Texas model with classes having a Div. 1 and Div. 2 when playoffs start. Going back to 32 in 6a is the easy solution... I just don't think those guys will allow it to happen. Again, my problem is that the guys who complained about not being able to compete now get the easy route come playoff time. And lets be honest... not everyone is going to be happy until we water it down enough to where every single school has a shot at a state title every year... |
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Post by tonymontana on Dec 13, 2016 9:50:44 GMT -6
Bixby thinks it should be left just the way it is.
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Post by blitz50 on Dec 13, 2016 9:51:13 GMT -6
No argument there. but it you put them back and do Div.1 and Div.2 out of the top 4 of each district is more equitable in my opinion,.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 9:53:13 GMT -6
No argument there. but it you put them back and do Div.1 and Div.2 out of the top 4 of each district is more equitable in my opinion,. So do you division 1 and 2 every class? |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 13, 2016 10:03:52 GMT -6
Food for thought. Currently we are discussing only football. As we look at OSSAA's big picture, what would you think about going to 8 team districts for ALL sports. Should Byng with an enrollment of 410 really be playing fall baseball? Basketball and baseball could play home and home for playoff eligibility just like football. Your district is your district. You still have our current discussion about numbers. I know this is a Texas model and it hurts a guy to model anything after them, but their plan of splitting Division I and Division 2 after playoff teams are decided is not a bad idea.
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Post by blitz50 on Dec 13, 2016 10:21:08 GMT -6
No argument there. but it you put them back and do Div.1 and Div.2 out of the top 4 of each district is more equitable in my opinion,. So do you division 1 and 2 every class? I wouldn't mind that so much. You could increase Numbers per class and reduce classes, maybe? But I think for sure would really be good for 3-A down that have 64 in them. |
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Post by email on Dec 13, 2016 10:35:13 GMT -6
Don't split 6a in half like Oklahoma. In trying to allow someone beside the big two win a state championship, you now have made the bottom 6a div 1 jobs terrible. Look at the openings Norman, Yukon, Edmond North. And you have a three time 6a div 2 champion that may not have been capable of even hosting a playoff game if they even got in the playoffs. I wouldn't go that far, bixby is not bad dude |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 10:37:28 GMT -6
Don't split 6a in half like Oklahoma. In trying to allow someone beside the big two win a state championship, you now have made the bottom 6a div 1 jobs terrible. Look at the openings Norman, Yukon, Edmond North. And you have a three time 6a div 2 champion that may not have been capable of even hosting a playoff game if they even got in the playoffs. I wouldn't go that far, bixby is not bad dude Agree. They could compete just fine. |
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Post by email on Dec 13, 2016 10:39:19 GMT -6
I don't necessarily have a problem with taking the 16 largest in their own class... Where our issue begins is with 6a-2. I think 6a-2 is a joke with only 16 schools. Those guys complained about having a chance to compete, so they got their own class... Okay. But, why should they get that AND only have to win 3 games to win a state title? Pretty watered down in my opinion. This is pretty good stuff. And if you take up the top 16 in the next classes and so on, you have a pretty interesting system. That's how it is here in Arkansas, 14 teams in 7a, 1st and 2nd get a bye |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Dec 13, 2016 10:41:06 GMT -6
I wouldn't go that far, bixby is not bad dude Agree. They could compete just fine. I don't disagree. They are very good. Are they good enough to host a playoff game in 6a Div 1? We will never know. |
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Post by email on Dec 13, 2016 10:41:57 GMT -6
Food for thought. Currently we are discussing only football. As we look at OSSAA's big picture, what would you think about going to 8 team districts for ALL sports. Should Byng with an enrollment of 410 really be playing fall baseball? Basketball and baseball could play home and home for playoff eligibility just like football. Your district is your district. You still have our current discussion about numbers. I know this is a Texas model and it hurts a guy to model anything after them, but their plan of splitting Division I and Division 2 after playoff teams are decided is not a bad idea. I have heard this is about to happen, but your football district will be different Baseball and basketball and softball will be the same |
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Post by Hands11 on Dec 13, 2016 10:42:34 GMT -6
Don't split 6a in half like Oklahoma. In trying to allow someone beside the big two win a state championship, you now have made the bottom 6a div 1 jobs terrible. Look at the openings Norman, Yukon, Edmond North. And you have a three time 6a div 2 champion that may not have been capable of even hosting a playoff game if they even got in the playoffs. I wouldn't go that far, bixby is not bad dude I agree with gpp, Bixby would not have hosted a playoff game in division 1 the passed three years. |
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Post by xdipster on Dec 13, 2016 10:47:45 GMT -6
I wouldn't go that far, bixby is not bad dude I agree with gpp, Bixby would not have hosted a playoff game in division 1 the passed three years. Where did the throw all that time away? |
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