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Post by xdipster on Feb 23, 2017 13:41:21 GMT -6
I just got an email from the Oklahoma House of Representatives bragging about 2 patriotism bills that are going through right now. How proud he must be. We say the pledge here every day, and I don't care what they put on the grounds of the capital as long as it doesn't break the law. So I replied thustly:
We say the pledge every day here. How about something important like fully funding our kids education. I don't give a rip about a raise. I knew I wouldn't get rich going into this profession. But tell those guys to do their jobs and put money back into the schools. Over 25% cut since 2008. Ridiculous.
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Post by TOBC on Feb 23, 2017 13:42:48 GMT -6
eloquent.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 23, 2017 13:48:04 GMT -6
Mr. SIMS:
I will tell you what I’ve told others who’ve sent me messages such as this one: Your complaint should be directed toward the Republicans. They control the House of Representatives by a 3-to-1 margin, 75-26. Republicans overwhelmingly control the state Senate, too, 42-6. The Governor is a Republican, the Lieutenant Governor is a Republican, and EACH AND EVERY OTHER statewide elective office is held by a Republican.
The GOP took control of the House starting with the 2005 legislative session 12 years ago; control of the Senate starting with the 2009 session eight years ago; and the current Governor has been in office for the last seven years.
The GOP is the party that has slashed the state tax base (income taxes and gross production taxes) to the point that the State of Oklahoma has faced deficits in each of the last four years: $188 million in 2014, $611 million in 2015, $1.3 BILLION in 2016, $901M and growing this year. Yet almost every Republican legislator who stood for election last year won, and Oklahomans voted overwhelmingly, by a 3-to-1 margin, for Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for President.
If you have heartburn over teacher salaries and/or budget cuts that have prompted schools to not replace textbooks for the last 10 years and to adopt four-day school weeks, TELL THE REPUBLICANS! THEY ARE THE FOLKS WHO ARE RUNNING THIS STATE!
MIKE W. RAY
Media Director, Democratic Caucus
Oklahoma House of Representatives
(405) 962-7819 office
(405) 245-4411 mobile
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Post by TOBC on Feb 23, 2017 13:54:58 GMT -6
we already knew that. unfortunately, most of the people in this state don't.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 23, 2017 13:57:23 GMT -6
It baffles me how many that teach in this state vote for the R and against the kids, the ones in class and their own. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Oh, and I'm glad you are protecting the state from the ghey abortion sharia scourge. It will just be starvation that kills our state now.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 24, 2017 8:49:07 GMT -6
It baffles me how many that teach in this state vote for the R and against the kids, the ones in class and their own. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Oh, and I'm glad you are protecting the state from the ghey abortion sharia scourge. It will just be starvation that kills our state now. I am an optimist. For a long time I have been saying/hoping we, as coaches and educators would figure this out. Admittedly, by nature coaches are ultra conservative. Hence there is a conflict within us that often votes against our best interest. |
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 9:49:25 GMT -6
Problem is that there is just not one issue to consider. There are other issues when we look at it at a whole. So while me voting Republican may be against my interest education wise, it is in my interest in issues such as gun rights, abortion, and religious practices.. to name a few.
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Post by Hitch on Feb 24, 2017 9:57:34 GMT -6
Good points.
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Post by almichaels on Feb 24, 2017 10:09:47 GMT -6
If we are knowingly voting against our self interest then we get what we deserve. Without a viable, healthy, public education system, the second amendment, abortion, and religious freedom issues won't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 10:13:23 GMT -6
While your Rep. is right, the bigger problem is all he could give you as a response is to "TELL THE REPUBLICANS!" instead of offering up some ideas that he, other Dem's and some moderate R's have or are planning to put forward. The finger pointing, from both sides in this state and nationally aren't getting us anywhere.
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Post by fbcoach78 on Feb 24, 2017 10:20:32 GMT -6
If we are knowingly voting against our self interest then we get what we deserve. Without a viable, healthy, public education system, the second amendment, abortion, and religious freedom issues won't matter. I don't know that I necessary think this is true. There are good people on both sides, and bad. Get the lobbyist out of things. |
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Post by email on Feb 24, 2017 10:22:12 GMT -6
State level parties do not fall in line with national party lines IMO
I believe most state level dems are more in lined with national level republicans, and that the state (Oklahoma) republicans are more tea partyish segment.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 24, 2017 10:26:23 GMT -6
State level parties do not fall in line with national party lines IMO I believe most state level dems are more in lined with national level republicans, and that the state (Oklahoma) republicans are more tea partyish segment. Absolutely true. |
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Post by Hitch on Feb 24, 2017 10:32:16 GMT -6
Good to see other folks on here today!
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Post by almichaels on Feb 24, 2017 10:40:18 GMT -6
If we are knowingly voting against our self interest then we get what we deserve. Without a viable, healthy, public education system, the second amendment, abortion, and religious freedom issues won't matter. I don't know that I necessary think this is true. There are good people on both sides, and bad. Get the lobbyist out of things. I didn't mention D's or R's intentionally, because of that very reason. There are good and bad on both sides of the aisle. I am on the side of education and fully funding it. However, it should be noted that the Republican Party of Oklahoma does have a plank in their platform that is specifically in favor of education vouchers. |
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2017 10:45:31 GMT -6
Problem is that there is just not one issue to consider. There are other issues when we look at it at a whole. So while me voting Republican may be against my interest education wise, it is in my interest in issues such as gun rights, abortion, and religious practices.. to name a few. So you have seen a serious threat to gun rights in our state? I don't remember any Dems saying they were going to take God or guns away. The abortion issue is decided. Since Row vs Wade, abortions have steadily declined. So what issue? We still scared of gheys? Pray it away brotha. Social issues are nothing more than the way those in power divide us without it. |
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 24, 2017 10:47:29 GMT -6
Problem is that there is just not one issue to consider. There are other issues when we look at it at a whole. So while me voting Republican may be against my interest education wise, it is in my interest in issues such as gun rights, abortion, and religious practices.. to name a few. Gun rights: This Dem. (or any other) isn't going to advocate take your or my deer hunting rifle(s) away. I own 4 rifles, 2 shotguns, and 2 handguns. Do we really need fully auto AK's though? Abortion: There is a tombstone in my town that reads, "Murdered by Human Wolves" a werewolf? No. A back alley illegal botched abortion that cost a 17 year old her life 100 years ago. It is going to happen. Don't drive it underground. Religion: Recent Supreme Court ruling protect all of us. I love my church and I love my state, but keep them separate. Yes, by your standards, I am a liberal. My views are mine and mine only. |
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 24, 2017 10:50:52 GMT -6
Problem is that there is just not one issue to consider. There are other issues when we look at it at a whole. So while me voting Republican may be against my interest education wise, it is in my interest in issues such as gun rights, abortion, and religious practices.. to name a few. Gun rights: This Dem. (or any other) isn't going to advocate take your or my deer hunting rifle(s) away. I own 4 rifles, 2 shotguns, and 2 handguns. Do we really need fully auto AK's though? Abortion: There is a tombstone in my town that reads, "Murdered by Human Wolves" a werewolf? No. A back alley illegal botched abortion that cost a 17 year old her life 100 years ago. It is going to happen. Don't drive it underground. Religion: Recent Supreme Court ruling protect all of us. I love my church and I love my state, but keep them separate. Yes, by your standards, I am a liberal. My views are mine and mine only. I can't say I disagree with any of those takes. Guess I'm liberal too! I prefer to call myself a pragmatist. |
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 11:10:34 GMT -6
Like I said I disagree. Great thing is I have that right. I am just telling my take on it. And yes I need a fully auto AK, why? Because the Constitution says so. Also, in all seriousness, dems are always try to pass stricter gun legislation. Look at Dem controlled states. Quick Questions what is the difference in an AR 15 and a 223?
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Post by Hitch on Feb 24, 2017 11:15:06 GMT -6
Is an AR 15 fully auto or semi?
I assume the 223 is bolt action?
My .30-.30 is lever action and I can have 3 rounds in with one in the chamber....
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