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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 24, 2017 11:18:44 GMT -6
Is an AR 15 fully auto or semi? I assume the 223 is bolt action? My .30-.30 is lever action and I can have 3 rounds in with one in the chamber.... I own a bolt .223. I would have no problems owning a semi-auto .223 or anything else. I just don't want nutjobs having access to fully auto weapons.
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 11:21:05 GMT -6
Is an AR 15 fully auto or semi? I assume the 223 is bolt action? My .30-.30 is lever action and I can have 3 rounds in with one in the chamber.... Actually an AR 15 is a semi auto. You can get a semi 223 as well. See it is already against the law for normal everyday people to own a full auto anything.
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 11:22:35 GMT -6
Is an AR 15 fully auto or semi? I assume the 223 is bolt action? My .30-.30 is lever action and I can have 3 rounds in with one in the chamber.... I own a bolt .223. I would have no problems owning a semi-auto .223 or anything else. I just don't want nutjobs having access to fully auto weapons. See again it is already law to own a full auto anything by average everyday citizens.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 24, 2017 11:30:09 GMT -6
IMO, gun control, like abortion, is a non-issue. We just had 8 years with the most liberal president we are likely to see for some time and he had ZERO effect on guns. Even with a democratic house and senate for his first 2 years in office, the massive gun control the NRA preaches about NEVER came close to happening.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2017 11:32:09 GMT -6
IMO, gun control, like abortion, is a non-issue. We just had 8 years with the most liberal president we are likely to see for some time and he had ZERO effect on guns. Even with a democratic house and senate for his first 2 years in office, the massive gun control the NRA preaches about NEVER came close to happening. The only thing that happened is the great Liberal Scare pushed gun and ammo prices through the roof. Some folks were played like suckas.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2017 11:39:49 GMT -6
Here is my final point on this, and look at us, we had a civil conversation. But that doesn't mean there isn't real anger here. The thing most of my coaching friends and teaching friends yell about is education, even the Republican ones. If your main issue is education, how can social issues that don't affect anybody sway you away from your chief concern. I love when my Republican friends say words like "sheeple" and "snowflake". So brilliant.
I sat in a liberal arts college and there were ghey people in there, and I didn't catch the ghey. I have listened to, debated with, and shared my table with atheist, Muslim, Jewish, agnostic, Christian, and even one Buddhist friends. It strengthened my faith, not detracted from it. It also grew my friendships with those people. Why do make sure they can separate us so easily?
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Post by BrennanHuff on Feb 24, 2017 11:42:37 GMT -6
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2017 12:38:17 GMT -6
That is not a soap box. It is a pedestal.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 24, 2017 12:43:36 GMT -6
Here is my final point on this, and look at us, we had a civil conversation. But that doesn't mean there isn't real anger here. The thing most of my coaching friends and teaching friends yell about is education, even the Republican ones. If your main issue is education, how can social issues that don't affect anybody sway you away from your chief concern. I love when my Republican friends say words like "sheeple" and "snowflake". So brilliant. I sat in a liberal arts college and there were ghey people in there, and I didn't catch the ghey. I have listened to, debated with, and shared my table with atheist, Muslim, Jewish, agnostic, Christian, and even one Buddhist friends. It strengthened my faith, not detracted from it. It also grew my friendships with those people. Why do make sure they can separate us so easily? I must give the Republicans credit. They are brilliant. They have platformed a bunch of hot button social issues that rural, poor, uneducated voters will absorb and made the 1% extremely wealthy. In the mean time, the demographic I just described have furthered the one-sided economic and educational policies that are keeping them in generational poverty.
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 12:55:59 GMT -6
IMO, gun control, like abortion, is a non-issue. We just had 8 years with the most liberal president we are likely to see for some time and he had ZERO effect on guns. Even with a democratic house and senate for his first 2 years in office, the massive gun control the NRA preaches about NEVER came close to happening. I will disagree with this point. Pay attention to how much dems are pushing stricter gun control laws. The only thing that kept that from happening is a Repub controlled Congress. Even if O was able to create an executive order to push one through the Supreme Court has enough conservatives to strike it down. Thus, I honestly care less who the president is, except when it is time to replace a justice. I am by far more concerned who is sitting in congress.
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 12:58:11 GMT -6
Here is my final point on this, and look at us, we had a civil conversation. But that doesn't mean there isn't real anger here. The thing most of my coaching friends and teaching friends yell about is education, even the Republican ones. If your main issue is education, how can social issues that don't affect anybody sway you away from your chief concern. I love when my Republican friends say words like "sheeple" and "snowflake". So brilliant. I sat in a liberal arts college and there were ghey people in there, and I didn't catch the ghey. I have listened to, debated with, and shared my table with atheist, Muslim, Jewish, agnostic, Christian, and even one Buddhist friends. It strengthened my faith, not detracted from it. It also grew my friendships with those people. Why do make sure they can separate us so easily? I must give the Republicans credit. They are brilliant. They have platformed a bunch of hot button social issues that rural, poor, uneducated voters will absorb and made the 1% extremely wealthy. In the mean time, the demographic I just described have furthered the one-sided economic and educational policies that are keeping them in generational poverty. Ridiculous statement. So you think all repub voters are uneducated??? You that is not true. They just happen to think differently than you do. See this statement right here is on reason the Democrats are in the bind they are in. They are missing the point!
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Post by givepullorpitch on Feb 24, 2017 13:09:29 GMT -6
I must give the Republicans credit. They are brilliant. They have platformed a bunch of hot button social issues that rural, poor, uneducated voters will absorb and made the 1% extremely wealthy. In the mean time, the demographic I just described have furthered the one-sided economic and educational policies that are keeping them in generational poverty. Ridiculous statement. So you think all repub voters are uneducated??? You that is not true. They just happen to think differently than you do. See this statement right here is on reason the Democrats are in the bind they are in. They are missing the point! Quit being so defensive. I don't think ALL of any voters, race, religions, or sexual orientation are stupid or intelligent. The current economic policies that have led to the greatest wealth disparity this country has ever known could not have occurred without a large populous voting against their own best interest. I respect your views on all the topics we have discussed. As educators, we see generational poverty and I for one am frustrated I have been unable to fix it. I am seeing a third generation of students in my school. I keep asking, "Are poor people stupid, or are stupid people poor?"
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2017 13:23:17 GMT -6
I know poor people are poor, and stupid people are stupid. Beyond that, causation is difficult to find.
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Post by blitz50 on Feb 24, 2017 13:46:01 GMT -6
Thing about it is Obama has been there for 8 years and hasn't fixed it. Time to let somebody else get a shot at it. By the way I am more likely to vote dem at the state level, but I vote pretty straight repubs at the National level.
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Post by xdipster on Feb 24, 2017 13:49:21 GMT -6
Thing about it is Obama has been there for 8 years and hasn't fixed it. Time to let somebody else get a shot at it. By the way I am more likely to vote dem at the state level, but I vote pretty straight repubs at the National level. We are talking about the state level. Obama didn't cause this problem in Oklahoma.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 24, 2017 14:22:14 GMT -6
In the end they are all politicians And will do what's good for them first Demo lib rep rino It don't matter Self serving not public servants. Party don't matter No different than andmins
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Post by fbcoach78 on Feb 24, 2017 14:31:38 GMT -6
By the way AR's are not fully auto...and they are chambered in .223 and .308. Do you even understand the process to get a fully auto weapon? Most dems think they are just so easy to get. And also a regular .223 AR isn't any different then a regular rifle. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
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Post by kennywayne9 on Feb 27, 2017 7:56:30 GMT -6
IMO, gun control, like abortion, is a non-issue. We just had 8 years with the most liberal president we are likely to see for some time and he had ZERO effect on guns. Even with a democratic house and senate for his first 2 years in office, the massive gun control the NRA preaches about NEVER came close to happening. I will disagree with this point. Pay attention to how much dems are pushing stricter gun control laws. The only thing that kept that from happening is a Repub controlled Congress. Even if O was able to create an executive order to push one through the Supreme Court has enough conservatives to strike it down. Thus, I honestly care less who the president is, except when it is time to replace a justice. I am by far more concerned who is sitting in congress. Obama had a dem congress his first two years and did NOTHING about gun control.
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Post by Burnet44 on Feb 27, 2017 8:06:48 GMT -6
I must give the Republicans credit. They are brilliant. They have platformed a bunch of hot button social issues that rural, poor, uneducated voters will absorb and made the 1% extremely wealthy. In the mean time, the demographic I just described have furthered the one-sided economic and educational policies that are keeping them in generational poverty. Ridiculous statement. So you think all repub voters are uneducated??? You that is not true. They just happen to think differently than you do. See this statement right here is on reason the Democrats are in the bind they are in. They are missing the point! Typical lib demo name calling In the arena of ideas they lose In the game of right and wrong they lose When they are elected we lose And the estab reps are not much if any better Putting up no resistance against ideas that will destroy our country which both want for their own gain
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