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Post by moxWASmybackup on Mar 19, 2018 12:48:48 GMT -6
So lets say you have a choice between two Jobs, we will call them A and B for hypothetical purposes. I'm going to list out pros and cons of both and I want to know which you'd pick and why. Asking for a friend (Definitely not Hoss). Job A is a 3A program, B is a 6A program.
Job A, Pros: Closer to home, slightly better pay, title promotion (Position to Coordinator), New program so you should get some sweet new pull overs.
Job A, Cons: New Program (first year) playing a full varsity schedule in a district with freshman, sophomores and maybe like 3 Jr. and Sr... Tops. Varsity schedule includes two teams who have won titles in the past 4 years (Most recently last year), HC at this school has no HC or coordinator experience, Have no facilities for first year so you have to share locker rooms with other school in district / practice facilities (New facilities are supposedly being built and ready for the following year). The district has two schools, the other schools HC is the AD for the district (will not change). Teaching assignment could include a curriculum entirely project based, in which you'd have to constantly grade, Classrooms aren't a thing (new concept school) so that means no white board when you need it.
Now for the other guy...
Job B, Pros: Program with some pedigree. Respected in its tough district with a chance to compete year in and year out (Should have a very realistic shot at 3, or 4th place in district with a chance to win playoff games). Have a kush teaching job, don't have to grade anything, never have to teach.
Job B, Cons: Further from home, slightly less pay, little chance to move up within, not sure where you place on the totem pole due to a new HC being brought in this off season.
Looking for all responses, genuine honest opinions all the way to whatever bull$hit Slater will come up.
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Post by moxWASmybackup on Mar 19, 2018 13:27:36 GMT -6
stud would get out of the game completely..... but if he were forced to stay he'd go to the 3a.....always wanted to start a program and see it grow.....also stud coached at a 5a and dealing with that many kids is a pain in the arse.... most 3a's will still share athletes and you don't have to compete with the basketball coach to get some 5'9" white kid out of the gym and onto the baseball field because the head basketball coach told him he'd get him a full ride to university of maryland baltimore community..... the negative to 3a is you're going to lose those kids for 3 weeks in the spring because they're going to be showing their turkeys and rabbits to anyone that will look at them.... Don't think this 3A has the same type of 3A kids you speak of.. Nice UMBC reference though. They were fun to watch.
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Post by acsl8ter on Mar 19, 2018 20:30:08 GMT -6
My honest opinion is to go with option B. The head coach at option A will be fired pretty soon. Seen this happen before. Most likely brought in because he knows the Sup well. It will be a dumpster fire. A little more money won’t matter when you get fired. Option A title won’t be a benefit when you go 0-20. It will be a curse. Take a little less money and work for a good program or better yet....stay where you are. The grass isn’t always greener. See......I can make a logical post
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 7:39:42 GMT -6
So lets say you have a choice between two Jobs, we will call them A and B for hypothetical purposes. I'm going to list out pros and cons of both and I want to know which you'd pick and why. Asking for a friend (Definitely not Hoss). Job A is a 3A program, B is a 6A program. Job A, Pros: Closer to home, slightly better pay, title promotion (Position to Coordinator), New program so you should get some sweet new pull overs. Job A, Cons: New Program (first year) playing a full varsity schedule in a district with freshman, sophomores and maybe like 3 Jr. and Sr... Tops. Varsity schedule includes two teams who have won titles in the past 4 years (Most recently last year), HC at this school has no HC or coordinator experience, Have no facilities for first year so you have to share locker rooms with other school in district / practice facilities (New facilities are supposedly being built and ready for the following year). The district has two schools, the other schools HC is the AD for the district (will not change). Teaching assignment could include a curriculum entirely project based, in which you'd have to constantly grade, Classrooms aren't a thing (new concept school) so that means no white board when you need it. Now for the other guy... Job B, Pros: Program with some pedigree. Respected in its tough district with a chance to compete year in and year out (Should have a very realistic shot at 3, or 4th place in district with a chance to win playoff games). Have a kush teaching job, don't have to grade anything, never have to teach. Job B, Cons: Further from home, slightly less pay, little chance to move up within, not sure where you place on the totem pole due to a new HC being brought in this off season. Looking for all responses, genuine honest opinions all the way to whatever bull$hit Slater will come up. Have a kush teaching job, don't have to grade anything, never have to teach. This is what sales for me.
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Post by fbs on Mar 20, 2018 7:41:42 GMT -6
I'm on the fence at the moment as well. Stay where I'm at or go to a much smaller school. Different headaches at both, I suppose. Pros and cons of both as well. I would say to take some time just to hash it out in your mind and then flip a coin. Heads is the big school, tails is the small school. The moment you flip the coin your heart will want it to one or the other and that's the one you choose. that might have worked for fbs and his sects you ality, but stud doubts that will work here.... Bruh... I'm just sitting here.
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Post by fbs on Mar 20, 2018 7:45:45 GMT -6
the big drawback for both depends on your aspirations. if you take the 3a job, it can be (not always) an uphill battle to get out of that small school pidgeonhole sometimes, and 3a is a bit smaller than I would ever have gone or will go. If I were you I'd either stay where I'm at or look to a bigger school that hits a few more of your checkmarks.
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Post by newcoach on Mar 20, 2018 9:23:12 GMT -6
the big drawback for both depends on your aspirations. if you take the 3a job, it can be (not always) an uphill battle to get out of that small school pidgeonhole sometimes, and 3a is a bit smaller than I would ever have gone or will go. If I were you I'd either stay where I'm at or look to a bigger school that hits a few more of your checkmarks. Word. I'm a coordinator at a 3A and cant even get a dam 6A position gig. I too would go for the bigger school, usually can parlay that into another gig later on. Brand new school is going to have growing pains and you never know how the people will handle that. You could be gone before it ever becomes relevant
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Post by acsl8ter on Mar 20, 2018 10:00:02 GMT -6
the big drawback for both depends on your aspirations. if you take the 3a job, it can be (not always) an uphill battle to get out of that small school pidgeonhole sometimes, and 3a is a bit smaller than I would ever have gone or will go. If I were you I'd either stay where I'm at or look to a bigger school that hits a few more of your checkmarks. Word. I'm a coordinator at a 3A and cant even get a dam 6A position gig. I too would go for the bigger school, usually can parlay that into another gig later on. Brand new school is going to have growing pains and you never know how the people will handle that. You could be gone before it ever becomes relevant All depends on what your goals are. I have worked at big schools and small ones. Different headaches at each one. I would never go back to a big school (6A) again though. Just my opinion.
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Post by moxWASmybackup on Mar 20, 2018 10:14:24 GMT -6
On the fence about the whole thing myself. Certainly looking to move up, but am (wicked) smart enough to realize that some opportunities to move up are not the best ones.
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Post by Hitch on Mar 20, 2018 10:18:20 GMT -6
I have never worked at a 3A, but I think I would love the opportunity to do so. I know all schools have their, not there/they're, own issues, but i think it would be fun to be in a small school environment. I've always been at a 4A or higher. I would also like the opportunity to start something from the ground floor so to speak. I've gone through a rebuild/change the character situation twice.
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Post by moxWASmybackup on Mar 20, 2018 10:19:28 GMT -6
That's part of it for me also.. Could be fun to build it how I would like (may not be the best thing haha). From the sounds of it, if I got it I would have a pretty fair amount of autonomy.
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Post by Hitch on Mar 20, 2018 10:26:46 GMT -6
My father worked at Clark HS in San Antonio when it opened. Head coach then was Mike Honeycutt. Had some others on staff then that are now or were successful HC's elsewhere and at Clark: Mike Robbins/Danny Padron/Lloyd Alexander..... It was tough, but I remember he loved it.
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Post by bigern809 on Mar 20, 2018 10:29:46 GMT -6
At this point in my life, I'd go with B. Mainly because I'm looking to go bigger school....
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Post by newcoach on Mar 20, 2018 11:20:46 GMT -6
Word. I'm a coordinator at a 3A and cant even get a dam 6A position gig. I too would go for the bigger school, usually can parlay that into another gig later on. Brand new school is going to have growing pains and you never know how the people will handle that. You could be gone before it ever becomes relevant All depends on what your goals are. I have worked at big schools and small ones. Different headaches at each one. I would never go back to a big school (6A) again though. Just my opinion. Has anyone else noticed that the big schools are very incestual only hire big school guys or college guys. Tough for small school guys to get to that level I've noticed.
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Post by Hitch on Mar 20, 2018 11:27:45 GMT -6
Incestual!! BRILLIANT!!! +20
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Post by fbs on Mar 20, 2018 12:20:03 GMT -6
All depends on what your goals are. I have worked at big schools and small ones. Different headaches at each one. I would never go back to a big school (6A) again though. Just my opinion. Has anyone else noticed that the big schools are very incestual only hire big school guys or college guys. Tough for small school guys to get to that level I've noticed. lots of truth to this. you really have to know someone to get out of that stigma.
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Post by dieselfitter on Mar 20, 2018 12:24:38 GMT -6
"I'd crawfish and drill that old devil in the a22"
And Turn the Page
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Post by moxWASmybackup on Mar 20, 2018 12:27:41 GMT -6
"I'd crawfish and drill that old devil in the a22" And Turn the Page This, wicked hilarious. +69, like Stuffedmuff warning level.
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Post by Hoss on Mar 20, 2018 13:25:24 GMT -6
So I walked by Lance's class and saw him behind his desk reading the responses y'all have posted. Guy literally looked like this...
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Post by Hitch on Mar 20, 2018 13:28:37 GMT -6
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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