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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 9:58:58 GMT -6
So I may be WAY off on this one especially since I'm in class A, but wasn't the real point of splitting 6A was to stop the east side dominance? In both divisions it's all east schools. Is there any chance that they say phuck it and bring them back together?
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6A
Nov 30, 2015 10:30:34 GMT -6
Post by jmstreeter on Nov 30, 2015 10:30:34 GMT -6
Those teams over there just play harder than these west side teams. I coach at a 6A 2 west side school and we have played against those east side schools in 6A and they just out played and were just as tough as we are.
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Nov 30, 2015 10:31:00 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Nov 30, 2015 10:31:00 GMT -6
No it will never be brought back to normal i don't think. Because in division 2 you have 2 teams making championship games that normally wouldn't in the old 6A. It didn't change anything for the teams in division one really. This was all made for what is now happening in division 2.
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6A
Nov 30, 2015 10:34:30 GMT -6
Post by jmstreeter on Nov 30, 2015 10:34:30 GMT -6
The west side is still on the outside looking in from both divisions. 6A 2 is being decided basically in a rematch of a district game between Sand Springs and Bixby. Ironically they were both supposed to be down this year, so that tells you that the east side still ahead us schools in the west.
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Nov 30, 2015 10:42:34 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Nov 30, 2015 10:42:34 GMT -6
some good football over here on the east side. the district we are in has to be the toughest in the state in my opinion. 3 out of the 4 semi-final teams from one district and then 2 of them are in the title game. dam piss cutter.
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Nov 30, 2015 10:50:08 GMT -6
Post by Hands11 on Nov 30, 2015 10:50:08 GMT -6
some good football over here on the east side. the district we are in has to be the toughest in the state in my opinion. 3 out of the 4 semi-final teams from one district and then 2 of them are in the title game. dam piss cutter. Yes ya'lls is tough man! Same thing in our district this year too! 3 of 4 in the semis and 2 in finals!
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6A
Nov 30, 2015 11:24:05 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Nov 30, 2015 11:24:05 GMT -6
its brutal man.
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Nov 30, 2015 11:46:04 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 11:46:04 GMT -6
6AI and 6AII won't change in the near future. 6AII schools like it the way it is currently. Biggest challenge for 6AI East teams is the travel. That will not change either.
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Nov 30, 2015 11:54:28 GMT -6
Post by duels23 on Nov 30, 2015 11:54:28 GMT -6
honestly, the travel's not that bad. less than 2 hours each way, a few times a year. the bands don't like it, but whatever...
the big thing is, at what point will the 6A-1 west side schools push for a re-districting that puts BA, Jenks, Union, and Owasso all in the same district (for the sake of geography....) in an attempt to break this stranglehold. it still wouldn't matter, b/c you'd most likely still get 3 east-side semifinalists regardless. the only difference it would really make is it would send 2 east-side teams on the road in the 1st round of the playoffs.
idk...yukon has amazing facilities and a lot of kids, the edmonds are building their own stadiums and have a lot of kids. i could see those programs catching up in the next 5 years, with the right leadership/direction/etc....
just a few thoughts/hypotheticals.
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6A
Nov 30, 2015 11:54:31 GMT -6
Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 30, 2015 11:54:31 GMT -6
Be nice to only have 15 teams in a class. A state championship in A, 2a 3a is tougher.
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Nov 30, 2015 12:03:34 GMT -6
Post by tonymontana on Nov 30, 2015 12:03:34 GMT -6
Be nice to only have 15 teams in a class. A state championship in A, 2a 3a is tougher. Dumbest statement I've ever read on here.
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Nov 30, 2015 12:08:14 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Nov 30, 2015 12:08:14 GMT -6
honestly, the travel's not that bad. less than 2 hours each way, a few times a year. the bands don't like it, but whatever... the big thing is, at what point will the 6A-1 west side schools push for a re-districting that puts BA, Jenks, Union, and Owasso all in the same district (for the sake of geography....) in an attempt to break this stranglehold. it still wouldn't matter, b/c you'd most likely still get 3 east-side semifinalists regardless. the only difference it would really make is it would send 2 east-side teams on the road in the 1st round of the playoffs. idk...yukon has amazing facilities and a lot of kids, the edmonds are building their own stadiums and have a lot of kids. i could see those programs catching up in the next 5 years, with the right leadership/direction/etc.... just a few thoughts/hypotheticals. won't. happen. i've said this before, the west side screwed up when they split their schools. divided their athletes. i'm sure if edmond didn't have 5 or 6 high schools, they would be the largest high school in the state, but they would also have a deep talent pool to pick from.
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Nov 30, 2015 12:14:13 GMT -6
Post by duels23 on Nov 30, 2015 12:14:13 GMT -6
yeah, it won't happen, but i wouldn't put it past the ossaa to do something crazy.
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Nov 30, 2015 12:39:38 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Nov 30, 2015 12:39:38 GMT -6
ossaa would find some way of saying they would lose money on the deal.
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Nov 30, 2015 12:42:38 GMT -6
Post by jmstreeter on Nov 30, 2015 12:42:38 GMT -6
That would make good geographical sense to put BA, Jenks, Owasso, and Union in the same district, but that sounds too right and perfect for that to happen. Plus those schools over there will not split up, unlike ours over here. The Edmond schools could challenge if they all would have stayed together. Edmond North has over 2,600 kids and they can't compete with some 6A 2 schools and they never will with the type of administrative leadership they have. The Mid-Del schools could compete if they was all one school, all three schools combined have at least 3,000 kids possibly more.
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6A
Nov 30, 2015 12:46:37 GMT -6
Post by TOBC on Nov 30, 2015 12:46:37 GMT -6
That would make good geographical sense to put BA, Jenks, Owasso, and Union in the same district, but that sounds too right and perfect for that to happen. Plus those schools over there will not split up, unlike ours over here. The Edmond schools could challenge if they all would have stayed together. Edmond North has over 2,600 kids and they can't compete with some 6A 2 schools and they never will with the type of administrative leadership they have. The Mid-Del schools could compete if they was all one school, all three schools combined have at least 3,000 kids possibly more. its always the thing that makes the most sense is the thing that doesn't happen.
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Nov 30, 2015 12:55:01 GMT -6
Post by Hitch on Nov 30, 2015 12:55:01 GMT -6
UIL and OSSAA must be related............
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6A
Nov 30, 2015 13:12:59 GMT -6
Post by jmstreeter on Nov 30, 2015 13:12:59 GMT -6
At least the UIL from my understanding and from talking with coaches who are in Texas that have coached here in Oklahoma, say the UIL is ahead of the OSSAA in the way they do things especially in football.
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Nov 30, 2015 13:28:40 GMT -6
Post by washeduphasbeen on Nov 30, 2015 13:28:40 GMT -6
givepullorpitch
about an hour ago givepullorpitch said: Be nice to only have 15 teams in a class. A state championship in A, 2a 3a is tougher.
Dumbest statement I've ever read on here
Not real sure on how to copy and paste a previous post, tried it the old fashioned way, doesn't look real good. Anyway what I think givepullorpitch is getting at is the fact that in 2A & A you must win 5 games to win a championship. That's another half of a season with teams that have the least amount of depth. Staying healthy is the key in any classification but the bigger schools play less playoff games. Try to go through a 2A or A bracket with anywhere from 18-25 kids on your team. Now that's what I think he meant by tougher.
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Nov 30, 2015 14:21:38 GMT -6
Post by givepullorpitch on Nov 30, 2015 14:21:38 GMT -6
Be nice to only have 15 teams in a class. A state championship in A, 2a 3a is tougher. Dumbest statement I've ever read on here. I don't see why you say that. I love looking at the top ten rankings in 6A and 6A JV. Only five teams are left out. If you make the playoffs in either 6A or 6A JV you are already in the quarterfinals. In A, 2A, and 3A, you have to win two playoff games just to sniff the quarterfinals. Every other year, in your 3rd round game, you are playing another district champion on their home field. No such thing as neutral sites.
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