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Post by email on Jan 4, 2017 11:07:05 GMT -6
Hands11, think of you district this year. The top 4 made the playoffs. The two top enrollment playoff teams go into one bracket and the smaller two go into a different bracket. You stilll crossbracket with the same districts, but it eliminates 1 round of playoffs and it lowers the enrollment discrepancy during the playoffs. I like it! Ok so if the top 2 enrollment team go into one bracket and the 2 smallest ones go into another, where does everyone else go?? Home
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Post by Hands11 on Jan 4, 2017 11:10:21 GMT -6
Top 4 of the district makes the playoffs. Then you look at the enrollment of the top 4 and make the split. Ok after that then where does everyone else who qualified for the playoffs go?? The top 2 enrollment schools play each other right off the bat??
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Post by Hands11 on Jan 4, 2017 11:11:15 GMT -6
Ok so if the top 2 enrollment team go into one bracket and the 2 smallest ones go into another, where does everyone else go?? Home What do you mean home?? You have 8 to 16 in a playoff bracket, where are they going?
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Post by blitz50 on Jan 4, 2017 11:11:58 GMT -6
Top 4 of the district makes the playoffs. Then you look at the enrollment of the top 4 and make the split. Ok after that then where does everyone else who qualified for the playoffs go?? The top 2 enrollment schools play each other right off the bat?? No you cross bracket like now. 1 from dist 1 plays 2 from district 2. 1 from district 3 plays 2 from district 4. etc.
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Post by Hands11 on Jan 4, 2017 11:17:34 GMT -6
But those seedings are based on enrollment, correct?
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Post by bolt92 on Jan 4, 2017 11:29:26 GMT -6
of the 4 that make it they are divided up 1st by enrollment (2 biggest go DI & 2 smallest go DII so their is a DI #1 seed from your district that was the best of the 2 DI playoff teams and a DI #2 seed that was the lower seed of the two DI schools) Then they cross district and there is two brackets of 16 teams. Does that clear anything up?
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Post by Hands11 on Jan 4, 2017 11:31:24 GMT -6
No sounds very confusing and screwy to me.
I would need to see a big board with a whole class playoff drawn up to understand I think.
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Post by bolt92 on Jan 4, 2017 11:32:09 GMT -6
I like that plan, but I am not opposed to keeping it the same or going back to how they used to do it or any of the other plans I heard. I think a big deal will be cutting 8 man from 76 schools to 48. There are some schools that will get bumped to 11 man and that may not be able to consistently field a team. Thoughts?
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Post by bolt92 on Jan 4, 2017 11:32:50 GMT -6
Hands, do you want it for 3A from this year?
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Post by Hands11 on Jan 4, 2017 11:34:53 GMT -6
Hands, do you want it for 3A from this year? Sure. But based on what we have all discussed, I wish i understood it better. And, I think that will be the big problem when someone proposes it is people will be totally confused like I am now. I don't think Oklahoma is big enough to do this style of playoff system.
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Post by 72blue on Jan 4, 2017 12:03:22 GMT -6
To me, the best plan for 6A would be to use the Texas model. Go back to 32 teams in 6A. Play the season just like we used to do. At the playoffs, take the top 4 from the district. Highest two enrollments go to Div. 1 bracket, lowest two enrollments go to Div. 2 bracket.
Go Back to how it was
6A-32 5A-32 4A-32 3A-32 2A-64 A-70
8 team districts for all. Easy to find games. Class A now has 6-9 team districts and 2 8 team districts.
All is well.
Anyone need a car?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 12:57:24 GMT -6
I think you Division all classes. Only adds 3 more Championships (and let's be honest, we have too many as it is, so what does 3 more matter).
Fixes scheduling issues. Fair for all schools. Doesn't just focus on 6a problems.
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Post by bolt92 on Jan 4, 2017 13:18:32 GMT -6
I hear ya Hands and it does add 2 more state champs, but I think it levels the playing field a little better.
In 3A this year based off current ADMs
District 1 D1
Kingfisher(407) #1 seed
Perkins-Tyron (394) #2 seed
District 1 D2
Mt.St. Mary (385) #1 seed
OCS (251) #2 seed
District 2 D1
Douglass (391) #1 seed
McLoud (480) #2 seed
District 2 D2
Jones (330) #1 seed
Prague (318) #2 seed
District 3 D1
John Marshall (419) #1 seed
Anadarko (458) #2 seed
District 3 D2
Purcell (360) #1 Seed
Marlow (365) #2 seed
District 4 D1
Pauls Valley (468) #1 seed
Madill (488) #2 seed
District 4 D2
Plainview (442) #1 seed
Sulpher (426) #2 seed
District 5 D1
Berryhill (420) #1 seed
Sequoyah Claremore (443) #2 seed
District 5 D2
Sperry (352) #1 seed
Dewey (358) #2 seed
District 6 D1
Cushing (502) #1 Seed
Bristow (461) #2 Seed
District 6 D2
Beggs (357) #1 Seed
Okmulgee #2 Seed
District 7 D1
Inola (414) #1 Seed
Talequah Sequoyah (362) #2 Seed
District 7 D2
Lincoln Christian (290) #1 Seed
Keys (328) #2 Seed
District 8 D1
Idabel (396) #1 Seed
Muldrow (489) #2 Seed
District 8 D2
Stigler (381) #1 Seed
Eufaula (319) #2 Seed
D1 Pairings
Kingfisher vs. McLoud
John Marshall vs. Madill
Berryhill vs. Bristow
Inola vs. Muldrow
Douglass vs. Perkins-Tryon
Pauls Valley vs Anadarko
Cushing vs. Sequoyah Claremore
Idabel vs Talequah Sequoyah
D2 Pairings
Mt.St. Marys vs Prague
Purcell vs Sulpher
Sperry vs Okmulgee
Lincoln Christian vs Eufaula
Jones vs OCS
Plainview vs Marlow
Beggs vs Dewey
Stigler vs Talequah Sequoyah
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Post by bolt92 on Jan 4, 2017 13:28:52 GMT -6
72Blue, I don't mind that proposal either even though it puts me in Class A that has 70 teams, but it is hard to justify 1 out of 16 getting a 6A gold ball and 1 out of 70 getting a gold ball in class A. How about 2 gold balls in 8 man, is that too much? I feel we may have watered down football with 9 state champs, but they probably felt that way in the 50's when we added 2 classes and went from 3 to 5. LOL! In regard to how many swimmers, wrestlers, and tracksters that are crowned state champs in contrast to how many participate in those sports, I don't think 11 state champs out of 330 or so schools would be too much. Thoughts?
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Post by email on Jan 4, 2017 13:34:15 GMT -6
What do you mean home?? You have 8 to 16 in a playoff bracket, where are they going? I was saying the others don't make the playoffs 4 in a district make it 2 go in one playoff bracket The other 2 go in the other 8 districts 16 in one bracket 16 in the other The "others" go home cause they didn't make the playoffs
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Post by email on Jan 4, 2017 13:34:55 GMT -6
But those seedings are based on enrollment, correct? And record
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Post by email on Jan 4, 2017 13:36:13 GMT -6
Hands, do you want it for 3A from this year? Sure. But based on what we have all discussed, I wish i understood it better. And, I think that will be the big problem when someone proposes it is people will be totally confused like I am now. I don't think Oklahoma is big enough to do this style of playoff system. This version or some form is on like 5 of the proposals I'm with you I don't think Oklahoma is big enough for this
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Post by email on Jan 4, 2017 13:42:18 GMT -6
To me, the best plan for 6A would be to use the Texas model. Go back to 32 teams in 6A. Play the season just like we used to do. At the playoffs, take the top 4 from the district. Highest two enrollments go to Div. 1 bracket, lowest two enrollments go to Div. 2 bracket. Go Back to how it was 6A-32 5A-32 4A-32 3A-32 2A-64 A-70 8 team districts for all. Easy to find games. Class A now has 6-9 team districts and 2 8 team districts. All is well. Anyone need a car? Pretty sure the numbers are way higher then that in class A and that was the problem . U could go 48 in 4a, 48 in 3a ,56 in 2a, rest 11 man in A, and one class of 48 in 8 man, if there is enough little bitty schools , say 45 and under enrollment, start a 6 man class. Idk just throwing it out there as an idea
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Post by 72blue on Jan 4, 2017 14:28:38 GMT -6
I believe those are the accurate numbers now. We have expanded 8 man, and so I think that is actually pretty accurate. I used ossaa.net/docs/2015-16/Football/FB_2015-16_1617Classifications.pdf to come up with the numbers. 8 man football now has 76 schools as opposed to 64 when we last utilized the 32 32 64 breakdown. My opinion is that the classes have to be 16, 32, or 64. 48 gums up the works.
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Post by Burnet44 on Jan 4, 2017 18:19:50 GMT -6
ya know people bhitch about the uil in texas on realignment after reading all this stuff you okie dudes go through and do actually makes me like the uil for what they do I know we have more schools but north or the red river sounds like a cluster cantrell
jeez louise
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